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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:11 PM
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Global Warming Real?
I'm at a parenting message board and not one person believes in global warming (dem or repub). I don't know anyone in real life either who believes (besides me). They all believe it's earths natural cycle. Do you believe?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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1. Everyone else, except the idiots you hang around with, believe it.
You've found a particularly dense pocket of Climate Holocaust Deniers.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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2. Maybe You Should Think of Moving
somewhere where people are bit more up on science. It's not safe living around so many dumb people....
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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3. to think that a population of 6 bln people will not affect the eco-system is insanity, IMO
so, yes, I do believe it.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:27 PM
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11. I recommend your post, ixion. These people must think Earth always
had hundreds of millions of cars belching greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere. How clueless can you be to believe billions of people and their smokestack industries would have no effect on the ecosystem? We have an island of plastic and trash the size of Texas floating around in the Pacific.

If nothing else common sense should tell you, this dynamic simply can't go on without catastrophic consequences.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:13 PM
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4. I don't believe in "global warming." I believe our activities affect climate change.
Global warming is kind of a lazy shorthand for it. Global Warming is what whiny-ass titty babies call it, so that they can snicker whenever it gets cold in the winter and say "boy howdy, that thar global warmin' shore is a brute!"



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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:15 PM
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5. I don't *believe* it
But I do acknowledge that the science behind it appears to be solid and so I accept it as most likely factual and real.

People who deny it are just scared and don't want to give up any part of their conspicious consuming and can't face reality.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:15 PM
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Climate change certainly is
It's still snowing where I am, and 3 days ago it was 90 degrees. Major tornado near Denver yesterday.

Is it carbon based? Possibly. My science teacher told me something interesting once- he said that 99% of the CO2 being converted to oxygen was being done by plankton...and our oceans haven't been doing well lately.

Wouldn't it be a good joke if it weren't our tailpipes, but our toxic dumping that destroyed the world?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:15 PM
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6. Screw belief. Study scientific facts. They show that it's real.
The early warnings, decades ago, were that there might be a problem; but it was hard to sort out a trend from the natural variation over time and complexities of climate at all times. Long, hard scientific study has demonstrated both the trend to climate change that involves overall warming AND implicated human activities in bringing it about. No number of message-board consensuses changes those facts.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:17 PM
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7. Ask how many kids..
.. are using inhalers.

We have a problem and sticking your head in the sand won't work.

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:18 PM
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8. Personally, I would find a new message board.
If people there actually say that Climate Crisis isn't real, then do you really want any parenting advice from them? :scared:

:hi:
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:23 PM
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9. Do they think the earth is flat too?
:eyes:
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:23 PM
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10. I think it is.... you might have an interest in this article
and also check out links to other site from this page.

In its definitive scientific synthesis report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) today issued its strongest call for immediate action to save humanity from the deadly consequences of unrestrained greenhouse gas emissions.

This report — signed off by 130 nations including the U.S. and China — slams the door on any argument for delay and makes clear we must under no circumstances listen to those who urge that we wait (who knows how long) to develop as yet non-existent technology . As the New York Times put it:

Members of the panel said their review of the data led them to conclude as a group and individually that reductions in greenhouse gasses had to start immediately to avert a global climate disaster that could leave island states submerged and abandoned, African crop yields decreased by 50 percent, and cause over a 5 percent decrease in global gross domestic product.

… this summary was the first to acknowledge that the melting of the Greenland ice sheet from rising temperature could result in sea-level rise over centuries rather than millennia.

http://climateprogress.org/2007/11/17/must-read-ipcc-synthesis-report-debate-over-delay-fatal-action-not-costly/

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:29 PM
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12. There is definitely a natural cycle (actually several different ones)
And there is a man-made component as well.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:36 PM
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13. Even if it was just a 'natural cycle' we'd have plenty of reasons to try and stop it.
Sea levels, coastlines, and all.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:39 PM
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14. well, the parents don't have to worry...try going to a child's board and see how THEY 'feel'
it is the kids who will suffer our insufferable ignorance!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:43 PM
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15. Oh for Fuck's Sake!


Do You know how to read?
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