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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:16 AM
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Lets not call Bush an idiot.
I have been thinking about GW. I think we should not call him an idiot and here is my reason. I think when you call someone stupid and everyone starts to think that than it is harder to place blame on them. GW is not stupid he understands what his evil ways have brought this country. If we call him stupid it gives him a defense of he does not know any better. Lets not call him an idiot because that lets him get off easy. I am by no means defending him and if anyone needs me to clear up my post I will.
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borelord Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:20 AM
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1. meh
Stupid doesn't get him off the hook. And it especially doesn't get his supporters off the hook. They voted for the moron. It just makes him look like an asshole for allowing himself to be put into a job he could not handle.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:20 AM
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2. He is a criminal
And needs to be prosecuted and locked up for his crimes against the constitution.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:22 AM
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3. Bingo! His "stupid" image has been carefully groomed by the RW...
...to manage expectations. His level of intelligence doesn't matter. His level of criminality does.

NGU.


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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:22 AM
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4. That is SO 2003...
Edited on Sun May-25-08 08:23 AM by iamahaingttta
I don't call him an idiot.
I call him an asshole.
Sometimes, I call him a scumbag.
His role is the "useful idiot," and he knows that is his place.
He might not be very bright, but he's not stupid.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:23 AM
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5. No, * isn't stupid. He's a lot of other things.
He may have dyslexia and without encouragement, books and written material would be elusive to him. In other words, closed off from the world. School, newspapers, books, etc.

He's the son of a rich man who was the son of another rich man.

He is a lazy SOB who never has had one minute's experience of working as a subordinate for another person or entity.

He is incurious and apathetic about the world that doesn't involve him.

He has an exaggerated sense of entitlement.

He is an opportunist.

He is in competition with his father for fame, success, wealth, and legacy that borders on a Greek tragedy.

He claims to be a Christian but has not adopted the tenets and principles that Christ advocated as far as love of humanity.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:24 AM
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6. Can we call him a criminal then?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:26 AM
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8. Hell yeah. Of the two memes, this is the one that benefits us.
NGU.


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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:52 AM
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38. At best a PATHETIC CRIMINAL. /nt
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:24 AM
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7. ah c'mon... lets
An idiot is someone who lacks common sense, and does not necessarily refer solely to their mental acumen.

*is not mentally handicapped -- although I do think you could make a case for that -- he does however, have a complete lack of common sense. I agree with you that he understands what he's doing. I think he just doesn't give a rat's a** about the repercussions.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:32 AM
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9. He is an idiotic WAR CRIMINAL. We can call him ALL the adequate names.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:47 AM
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10. We can, but it'd be, dare I say it...
...stupid. "Chickens for Colonel Sanders" stupid.

NGU.


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:48 AM
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11. WAR CRIMINAL he is.
That does say it all.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:50 AM
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14. That's all that needs to be said.
:toast:

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:49 AM
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12. Can we call him an evil doer?
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:50 AM
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13. He is an idiot
Sorry but I have to say so.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:52 AM
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15. He's not an idiot when it comes to "horse sense"......
.... He's just an intellectually uncurious, rather shallow person. That doesn't make him stupid, just bland and uninformed.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 08:55 AM
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16. It's amazing how many people cling to a third-grade schoolyard insult at the expense...
...of tactical advantage over these criminals.

NGU.


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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:16 AM
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17. I am willing to upgrade him only to imbecile.


Borderline Deficiency (IQ 70-80), Moron (IQ 50-69), Imbecile (IQ 20-49) and Idiot (below 20).
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:19 AM
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18. he`s mentally ill......
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:26 AM
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19. Idiocy, incompetence -
both let him and his cronies slide. The only thing Bush has mastered is indifference. He has no ability to care about anyone but himself, and that makes him the willing and high-priced tool of those who see this country as opportunity for unprecedented pillage and plunder. But then, he was born into a family that values financial gain over conscience.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:30 AM
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20. Is it OK to call him a FUCKING WAR CRIMINAL
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:43 AM
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27. See #8 above...
NGU.


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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:36 AM
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21. Lets not call Bush an idiot

He mastermind his way into IRAQ with smoke and mirrors. Tons of money being made in IRAQ.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:44 AM
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22. one word
SOCIOPATH


-90% Jimmy
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:45 AM
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23. But at the same time, calling him smart is an insult to smart people
I see your concern and yet I think to myself, its not like he did well in school or passed the bar with ease. I don't think he should be let off the hook for anything he's done, but I refuse to call him smart. We've had smart presidents before and GWB isn't in the club.

Ignorance is never an excuse for committing crimes in our country and I think you need to keep in mind that when people call him stupid, its a relative term. In other words, he's stupid for a president. Personally, I hold a president to a higher standard of intellectual prowess and I would hope we all do.

I'd say GWB is living proof that criminal and stupid are not mutually exclusive.
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:46 AM
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24. Is "EVIL" OK?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:09 AM
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31. See #8 above...
NGU.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:57 AM
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25. The thing is that he is stupid, willfully so.
He's spent his whole life cultivating stupid. Although he was born with normal intelligence, the arrogance of his family is such that developing it was seen as letting down the side. He was to spend his life buying other people's hard work and intelligence. He was to be concerned with the pleasantness of his immediate surroundings and not much beyond them.

He was raised with a bumper sticker philosophy of life: people are poor because they are lazy; some people are born to be superior to all others and those are the people who need to run things; you can always tell who the superior people are by their wealth; democracy is mob rule and to be avoided; WE are the superior people and WE will run things.

This is all that man knows and all he's needed to know. He's always hired other people to worry about the nasty details so he can play.

I've met people like this. They're affable enough on the surface and utterly clueless. They seem like they're sleepwalking through life because there is absolutely no reason for them ever to wake up and notice what kind of world they've made for the rest of us. They do not want to be educated.

So 'scuse me if I keep calling him Stupid. I know his type. I know he is. I also know that doesn't excuse anything he does because he has the capacity to be educated and refuses to do so. He is culpable.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:12 AM
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26. I'm willing to compromise.



IMHO he is somewhat less than average in the common sense category.

But I think he should be held accountable for all his crimes and misdeeds.






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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:46 AM
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28. bushitler is an idiot fuckwad.
That any better? :evilgrin:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 10:49 AM
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29. Bush is just a decoy
to distract from what Cheney is doing.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:09 AM
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30. "Stupid" and "evil" are not mutually exlusive qualities.
Bush is unquestionably both.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:10 AM
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32. But promoting one of them helps our cause, and the other harms it.
NGU.


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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:14 AM
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34. Nonsense.
Bush is a stupid person who embraces stupid ideas (that's what stupid people do). He is also demonstrably evil. Saying that Bush and his ideology are both stupid and evil does nothing to hurt "our" cause. Besides, he's palpably, clearly, obviously stupid. If we try to tell people otherwise, they'll think we're goofy.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:39 AM
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36. So you prefer third grade insults to winning.
Edited on Sun May-25-08 11:41 AM by ClassWarrior
NGU.


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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:39 PM
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40. I prefer the truth.
And the truth is that Bush is profoundly, even pathologically stupid. As is his ideology. And stupid ideologies tend to beget evil.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:13 AM
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33. hes tommy boy
his brain is pickled in a stew of
alcohol bong water and god knows what else.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:15 AM
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35. Look - GW has had one of the most 'successful' Presidencies ever
sick as that is - it's true.

If you look at it from the point of view of someone who hates:

Democracy
The Constitution
America, and everything is has stood for
Americans who aren't millionairs or billionairs
Compasion
The Earth
All other countries and there prople
and Humanity in general

He's done a great job!

:nuke:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 11:47 AM
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37. He's an incomplete human (no compassion/knowledge of others' suffering).
As such, he makes the perfect predator/businessman, especially in league with his OPEC friends.

Capitalism is producing perfect capitalists. Disaster capitalists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9CM_J00bw

Impeach and prosecute NOW.
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katerinasmommy Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:29 PM
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39. I agree. It's an insult to idiots n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:46 PM
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41. I agree - I have been saying for years he isn't an idiot
He also isn't stupid. You don't come out of Harvard and Yale stupid.

He is incompetent and cruel and evil. But he is NOT an idiot. Far from it.
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:46 PM
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42. Nice point and so true.
Edited on Sun May-25-08 01:47 PM by KSinTX
No argument here. He is not an idiot just a failure in everything he touched leading up to the governorship and presidency. The guys pulling the strings are the geniuses.
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yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:50 PM
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43. I prefer to call him
a FUCKING idiot!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 01:52 PM
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44. Can I still call him a jackass and a piece of shit?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 03:12 PM
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45. bush is a guilty idiot who has caused the deaths of hundreds
of thousands of people around the world.

he's a disgusting piece of slime that is as UnAmerican and indecent as you can be.

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