US residents in military prisons? Govt says it's war

[halliburtonsux]

US residents in military prisons? Govt says it's war 24 May 2008 Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri is a U.S. resident being held in a South Carolina military brig; he is the only enemy combatant held on U.S. soil. Al-Marri was captured six years ago. To justify holding him, the government claimed a broad interpretation of the president's wartime powers, one that goes beyond warrantless wiretapping or monitoring banking transactions. Government lawyers told federal judges that the president can send the military into any U.S. neighborhood, capture a citizen and hold him in prison without charge, indefinitely. Courts have gone back and forth on al-Marri's case as it worked its way through the system. If enemy combatants can be detained in the U.S., how long can they be held without charge? Without lawyers? Without access to the outside world? Forever? One judge questioned why there was such anxiety over the policy. After all, there have been no mass roundups of citizens (yet) and no indications the White House is coming for innocent Americans next. (See: KBR awarded $385M Homeland Security contract for U.S. detention centers 24 Jan 2006. See: DoD to 'augment civilian law' during pandemic or bioterror attack 11 May 2007.)

[smiley_glad_hands]

1. Bring it on. eom

[rhett o rick]

11. Problem is that it will be difficult to know when it's here. We've been loosing freedoms

at a rapid pace with little push back. At what point does the population rebel. The fascist cabal will take away the dissidents first. Wonder if they will used tattoo numbers.

[flashl]

2. K&R

[truedelphi]

3. And eight million of us are on the

"Pls round up these trouble makers" list

[Edweird]

4. “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by

the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or
the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall
be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”
— Posse Comitatus ActI

Show me the express authorization.
If there isn't any they are criminals.

[halliburtonsux]

5. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878

[MilesColtrane]

12. The government would argue that...

...the Iraq War Resolution is the Act of Congress for bypassing Posse Comitatus.

In 2005 the U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that Bush has the authority to designate a U.S. citizen an "enemy combatant" and detain them, and this authority is derived from the Iraq War Resolution. (Jose Padilla case)

All the more reason to get the Democratic nominee elected president and get him appointing Supreme Court justices over the next four years.
There will be more detentions, and eventually the Court will have to hear one of these cases and rule on it.

[Edweird]

14. "expressly authorized" not inherent. not derived.

I'm no lawyer, but that seems pretty clear to me.
Of course, he's going to get away with it.
But I know what he is doing is illegal.

[lonestarnot]

6. K & R

[madmusic]

7. Meanwhile, back at the FLDS ranch

Hate to belabor it, but the comparisons are obvious, at least to me. Neither party should have the power and authority to trump due process, and due process itself is becoming fossilized into extinction.

Due process and liberty used to be a great, liberal rallying cry. Note "liber-ty" and "liber-al."

[EFerrari]

8. Only BushCo could break so many laws all at the same time. n/t

[WinkyDink]

9. Kafka is spinning. Isn't "enemy combatant" status determined with a TRIAL??!

[MilesColtrane]

13. Not since 2005.

See my post above.

[halliburtonsux]

15. Great question!

n/t

[rhett o rick]

10. Aren't there US citizens being held in Taylor, TX without charge now, today?

I have a very hard time getting any information about who is in the Hutto "detention" camp.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mntQogvuRI8&feature=related