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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:00 AM
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my war (pic heavy)
Edited on Mon May-26-08 10:07 AM by unhappycamper
Oh so many years ago (41 to be precise) I had the non-distinct privilege of fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way. I also had the non-distinct privilege of doing it again in 1970. I have a few pics in boxes somewhere around the place, but rather than find them, dig them out, make pics and post to my photobucket account, I thought a few google pics would suffice.

So here's my phony Vietnam album.



































































58,264 soldiers gave up their lives for lies and corporate domination.




These guys were correct.





Get the fuck out of Iraq NOW!





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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:02 AM
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1. K&R.
;( :hug:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:02 AM
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2. Good one, camper. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:05 AM
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3. They can begin by ending Stop Loss.
Solidarity, unhappycamper!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 01:00 PM
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19. Yes on stopping Stop Loss.

That's repeated many times by retired Army personnel in our area. They know the toll....
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:05 AM
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4. Thank you.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:06 AM
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5. NOW!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:08 AM
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6. even after all these years these are hard for me to look at
I guess thats why I still haven't found the strength to visit the Wall. Yep 38 years later and its all still very painful
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:13 AM
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8. I won't advise you on visiting The Wall.
It was very difficult for me. I wept, as other vets did who were there that day. The fact that I was in good company helped.

So, I won't advise you. But I will say that I hope you go, for your sake.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:30 AM
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28. I was at the wall in 1989 with my dad.
He recognized names of kids he went to high school with. :(
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:09 AM
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7. Thanks, from another Vietnam vet.
Who feels the same you do about Iraq.

I can't fucking believe it happened after Vietnam.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:15 AM
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10. Welcome home, Brother.
I can't believe we're still doing this same shit 40 years later.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:15 AM
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9. here's a little piece of trivia to accompany one of those photos . . .
the guy placing the flower in the barrel of the rifle ultimately moved to California and became a leader of one of the more outrageous counterculture groups, I believe in San Francisco . . . I just can't recall which one . . . anyone? . . .
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:37 AM
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12. You mean this one, no?
I'm not sure, looks like Kent State, to me...:shrug:

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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 07:12 AM
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26. Don"t think its Kent State
These guys are armed with M-14 rifles. The NG at Kent State was armed with M-1s.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 08:22 AM
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27. Thanks. I was just looking at the flowers, but you're right about the rifles...
This pic reminded me of the TV movie, which was pretty well done, IMO...:shrug:
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:32 AM
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11. Thank you from my heavy heart.

Cousins--flying the copters
BIL--receiving the wounded in surgery DaNang (if memory is correct)
family at home--praying
self--dealing with the families AND the returning GIs with drug problems AND the PTSD in the States.

I think all of above who are still around, regardless of party affiliation,
screamed VIET NAM when Bush made his move. Damn, damn and damn some more.

:grouphug: :banghead: :patriot:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:41 AM
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13. Welcome home, JohnnyLib2.
And thank you for serving. :patriot:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:56 AM
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14. Thank you both for your service back then and for these pictures
Edited on Mon May-26-08 11:00 AM by jwirr
now. This is the kind of journalism we are not allowed to see today and what got us out of Vietnam. Especially the picture of the naked girl and the one with the prisoner. Americans were forced to learn that war is hell and that it is not a good thing unless it is a last recourse.

Let us have peace and have it now.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 11:11 AM
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17. I'm with you, too, Judi.
I was a kid when this stuff went on, but it is burned into my memory. My Dad took me to the funeral of a soldier who was killed in Vietnam, early on, and it sure sticks in my mind, the whole story I was told, and this brave young man. I think I was 10, but I learned from that, and had a heated discussion with my cousin, a graduate of West Point, about the wisdom of "shock and awe." I was horrified; he supported hios Army buddies. We now both agree, and have made the unavoidable references to Vietnam. You're right. Peace now.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 11:06 AM
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15. My 'war': '63-'71
In the Alabama Air National Guard with an RF-84/F (they went obsolete back during Korea) strapped to my butt.

As a brand new Lt. I came this || close to being put in charge of a riot squad when Kennedy federalized the guard during the Bull Connor - fire hose - freedom rider days in Birmingham.
I am still thankful that I managed to dodge that one.

Oh well, I kept the Alabama Gulf Coast safe from a Cuban invasion anyway.:sarcasm:

Yeah, I feel like you do.
AGAIN? OH GOD, NOT AGAIN!
:-(
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 12:57 PM
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18. I am so terribly sorry, trof.
I didn't serve, wasn't old enough, and am female, but knew those who did. And I felt the same way, did in 2003. Again?! Please, not again. ;(
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 11:08 AM
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16. Recommended...
UHC, thank YOU for your service and your efforts for Vets' causes.

:patriot:
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:39 PM
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20. Thank you for this and all your excellent posts
I read you loud and clear.



Peace.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:43 PM
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21. K&R
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:46 PM
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22. "All my bags are packed, I'm ready to go
Edited on Mon May-26-08 05:03 PM by rasputin1952
I'm standing here outside your door
I hate to wake you up to say goodbye
But the dawn is breakin', its early morn
The taxi's waiting, he's blowin his horn
Already I'm so lonesome I could cry.

Chorus:
So kiss me and smile for me
Tell me that you'll wait for me
Hold me like you'll never let me go.
Im leavin' on a jet plane
I dont know when I'll be back again
Oh, babe, I hate to go.

There's so many times I've let you down
So many times I've played around
I tell you now, they don't mean a thing
Every place I go, I think of you
Every song I sing, I sing for you
When I come back, I'll wear your wedding ring.

(chorus)

Now the time has come to leave you
One more time let me kiss you
Then close your eyes, I'll be on my way.
Dream about the days to come
When I wont have to leave alone
About the times, I wont have to say,

(chorus)


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Echoes of the past, so many never came home, so many forever young; the clock simply stops, all becomes conjecture, "what if"?

When will we beat our spears into plowshares?

On edit: This song means a lot to me simply because I left and came to it. Sometimes, things are very odd when one goes into the service.







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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 04:46 PM
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23. Kicked and recommended!!!!
You so rock!!!

:yourock:
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 09:19 PM
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24. KNR
Another Fiasco, Another Time. Some figured it out then, some figured it out later, far too many never figured it out. Maybe This Time.
:cry:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 09:35 PM
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25. K&R
:kick:
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