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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:59 AM
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UBS Warburg/Phil Gramm ...so many DOTS so little time.
Who owns what's left of ENRON?

UBS Warburg Sees Life In Enron Division

Financial-services firm to acquire failing energy company's trading unit

By Steve Konicki
InformationWeek
January 21, 2002 12:00 AM (From the January 21, 2002 issue)


UBS Warburg will take control of Enron Corp.'s wholesale energy trading unit later this month and become the owner of some of the most advanced online energy trading technology. The financial-services firm unveiled plans to acquire Enron's online trading business last week in a 10-year profit-sharing deal.

The crown jewel of the IT assets UBS Warburg is getting from Enron is the custom analytical tools the energy company developed since its founding in 1985. "Enron's secret sauce was its ability to look at all the independent factors that could affect the market and, in a risk-conscious way, create a sophisticated analysis that gave it a real edge," says Ethan Cohen, an Aberdeen Group senior analyst. MORE...

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/enterpriseapps/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6500526

Enron And the Gramms

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E0D81038F934A25752C0A9649C8B63

Paul Moritz Warburg - founder of the Federal Reserve Banking System

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The German branch of the family included Max Warburg who was one of the founders of the IG Farben industrial conglomerate which later played such an ominous role in helping the Third Reich. At the outbreak of WWII however all jewish members had been expelled from the board of IG Farben (and most other companies). Max Warburg fled to the United States in 1938.

http://www.israel-times.com/finance/2005/08/paul-moritz-warburg-founder-of-the-federal-reserve-banking-system-997/

Timeline of Treason: The Bush Family Connections to the Nazis

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1926:
Prescott Bush promoted to Vice-President of W. A. Harriman & Co. Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read, set up the German Steel Trust with Thyssen & partner, Fredrick Flick. According to the terms, Dillon Read would handle the Trust’s corporate banking in return for two Dillon Read representatives being on the board of the German Steel Trust. Albert Voegler was the chief executive of the German Steel trust was. Voegler was another industrialist that was instrumental in bringing Hitler to power. He also held directorships in Thyssen’s Dutch bank and the Hamburg-Amerika Line. Union Bank was not in partnership with Flick’s empire, Silesian Holding Co. Walker, Bush and Harriman owned a third of Flick’s holding company and called their share Consolidated Silesian Steel Corp.

American I.G. founded as a holding company controlling I.G. Farben assets in the United States. Some board members were Edsel Ford, Charles Mitchell (President of Rockefeller's National City Bank of New York), Walt Teagle (President of Standard Oil), Paul Warburg (Federal Reserve chairman and brother of Max Warbug, financier of Nazi Germany's war effort and Director of American I.G.) and Herman Metz, a director of the Bank of Manhattan, controlled by the Warburgs. Three other members of the Board of Governors for American I.G. were tried and convicted as German war criminals. MORE...

http://www.aracnet.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html

So many dots to connect so little time before another gangster slips into the White House under the radar.



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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:03 AM
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1. A few more dots from the past...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:06 AM
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3. New Enron/Warburg/Bush a conspiracy in the making!
9215!

I miss him
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:05 AM
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2. Gangsters slip sliding away..............
..... .....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:12 AM
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4. It ain't funny how slime slips away...
Edited on Wed May-28-08 06:13 AM by Hubert Flottz
McSame is just another link in that old chain.

Edit...McSame Old Shiza!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:15 AM
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6.  funny how slime slips away...
and the slime that lets them
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:15 AM
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5. These connections are uncomfortably close to the root of the poison tree.
No one outside of the free 'net will ever bring it up or explore it. It will never become "common knowledge" until the media monopolies are broken up and the 4th Estate serves the People again.

Perhaps in our grandchildren's time?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:35 AM
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7. Connections like this?
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography

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Prescott Bush's American Ship and Commerce Corp. notified Max Warburg of Hamburg, Germany, on March 7, 1933, that Warburg was to be the corporation's official, designated representative on the board of Hamburg-Amerika.@s2@s9

Max Warburg replied on March 27, 1933, assuring his American sponsors that the Hitler government was good for Germany: `` For the last few years business was considerably better than we had anticipated, but a reaction is making itself felt for some months. We are actually suffering also under the very active propaganda against Germany, caused by some unpleasant circumstances. These occurrences were the natural consequence of the very excited election campaign, but were extraordinarily exaggerated in the foreign press. The Government is firmly resolved to maintain public peace and order in Germany, and I feel perfectly convinced in this respect that there is no cause for any alarm whatsoever. ''@s3@s0

This seal of approval for Hitler, coming from a famous Jew, was just what Harriman and Bush required, for they anticipated rather serious `` alarm '' inside the U.S.A. against their Nazi operations.

On March 29, 1933, two days after Max's letter to Harriman, Max's son, Erich Warburg, sent a cable to his cousin Frederick M. Warburg, a director of the Harriman railroad system. He asked Frederick to `` use all your influence '' to stop all anti-Nazi activity in America, including `` atrocity news and unfriendly propaganda in foreign press, mass meetings, etc. '' Frederick cabled back to Erich: `` No responsible groups here urging boycott German goods<,> merely excited individuals. '' Two days after that, On March 31, 1933, the American-Jewish Committee, controlled by the Warburgs, and the B'nai B'rith, heavily influenced by the Sulzbergers (New York Times), issued a formal, official joint statement of the two organizations, counseling `` that no American boycott against Germany be encouraged, '' and advising `` that no further mass meetings be held or similar forms of agitation be employed. '' Tons more here...

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

I think that KO is trying to get the dots to make a little more sense.

McSame don't see a thing wrong with anything these gangsters have done in the past, because he's been in it with them and has been for years. Olberman might finally get the ball rolling in the right direction.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:51 AM
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8. So John McWayne has Nazi collaborators in his camp
Great post - K & R
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:07 AM
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9. The ENRON disaster hit hard here and to think there's a sequel
is more than I can stomach. At the end of the day, these corporate fleas are sucking the life blood out of each and every one of us and continue to do so. If we are so stupid as to put this election in the hands of them again, this one is on us.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:18 AM
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10. Manipulating the market
"Enron's secret sauce was its ability to look at all the independent factors that could affect the market and, in a risk-conscious way, create a sophisticated analysis that gave it a real edge,"

This is why oil is over $120. a barrel.

These blood sucking parasites are the main problem.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:22 AM
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11. McBad Apple will just look the other way like W has.
Edited on Wed May-28-08 07:32 AM by Hubert Flottz
McSOS!

Edit...given the chance, McLame would surround the White House with the same type crew of Stealth "Made Men" that Bush has had around for the past 8 years. His friend Phil Gramm would just be the tip of the ice-berg.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:23 AM
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12. Highly recommended
great information.

Thanks for posting
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:53 AM
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13. Thanks for the recommendation Jeff
We need to highlight McSame's oily connections to the likes of the UBS/ENRON crew.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:56 AM
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14. * k&r! nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:03 PM
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15. K & R
Bookmarking a most excellently revealing thread!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:47 PM
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16. Hub, please tell me this is not the same UBS that my mother has
handling her stock accounts!:puke:

Is there a US subsidiary?

First, being related to the Krupp family, and now this crap. Ugh.

I'm sure I must be adopted. Please! :)

:hi::hug:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:12 AM
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19. "Is there a US subsidiary?"
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:37 AM
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20. Argh!!!
I saw a Thyssen-Krupp tractor trailer the other day, never have before.

How sickening that the families which helped Hitler rise to power are still profiting.

Thanks for the links, HF! :hug:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:00 PM
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17. Good grief
I'm collecting info now and planning to do a short video of the UBS/Gramm/McCain/mortgage meldown connection. I will definitely add this information to it. Wow Hubert Flottz...great connecting of the dots. I'll be sure and credit you. K&R
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:03 AM
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18. I'll look forward to seeing your finished product...
PM me a link when you're finished.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:06 PM
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21. Will do
have put it on a back burner for something more pressing but hope to get back to it next week.
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