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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:38 AM
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"Why didn't he resign?"
"How much was he paid to write this book?"

"He's David Brock 2.0."

"The timing of the release of this book is questionable."

The Republican swarm is out in full force. What other talking points are you hearing about Little Scotty?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:40 AM
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1. 'he just wants to make money' that seems to be the thrust of what i'm hearing
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:41 AM
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2. He probably does
I thought Republicans were pro capitalism.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:48 AM
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5. i'm sure he does, don't we all. but the implication is that it is his only reason
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:58 AM
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7. well, it may well be - what is damning is the idea that he is lying
because he wants to make money - the idea that the profit motive automtically leads to deceit.

Bryant
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:02 AM
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9. Isn't that a Puke "core value?"
Oh, I get it. THEY are the only ones that are permitted to make money ...

Bake
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:46 AM
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3. "The timing of the release of this book is questionable." LOL
Someone needs to ask, when would be a good time to release such a book? Since their answer is "Never" it is actually funny that they would criticize the timing. Of course I am easily amused when it comes to Republican disgruntledness.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:48 AM
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4. Given McSame's two of a kind campaign strategy
the timing is great. Rethugs are fucked and I'm lovin it. :rofl:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:51 AM
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6. From what we know so far, I think his book is one of those limited
partial hangouts or whatever the Nixon crowd used to call them. I think his purposes were twofold: To exonerate himself (Nobody told me, I trusted them...), and to confine the major damage to Libby & Rove, leaving Bush plenty of wiggle room.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:04 AM
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10. " ..... leaving Bush plenty of wiggle room."
Interesting take on things, Jack. Essentially, Little Scotty is still in league with Chucklenuts and is helping to throw Rove under a the bus.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:04 AM
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11. Woo hoo! "Modified Limited Hangout" - John Ehrlichman
March 1973 meeting in the Oval Office:


PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the — let it hang out, so to speak?
DEAN: Well, it’s, it isn’t really that —
HALDEMAN: It’s a limited hang out.
DEAN: It’s a limited hang out.
EHRLICHMAN: It’s a modified limited hang out.


That, along with "inoperative statement" by Ron Ziegler were two great quotes to come out of
Watergate. Ziegler also gave us "Mistakes were made", though Ronald Reagan later appropriated it during Iran Contra.

The actual "inoperative statement" quote was a little longer:

"This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative." –April 17 1973, retracting previous statements that had been revealed to be false.

"Mistakes were made" quote

"I would apologize to the Post, and I would apologize to Mr. Woodward and Mr. Bernstein." He continued, "We would all have to say that mistakes were made in terms of comments. I was overenthusiastic in my comments about the Post, particularly if you look at them in the context of developments that have taken place." May 1, 1973; the previous day, White House counsel John Dean and Nixon aides John Ehrlichman and H.R. Haldeman had resigned, as the Watergate scandal progressed.<[br />
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:11 AM
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13. Did you mean 'wiggle room' or 'giggle room' as in Oval Office!
IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY NOW!!!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:01 AM
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8. Add this talking point: "He's disgruntled"
That from the air headed Ms. Perino.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:09 AM
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12. Some Of Those Points Are Valid
Too many here want to glam on to Snotty for finally saying what we knew he knew all along. Sorry, I won't give this slimeball the benefit of the doubt...or even believe now that he's telling the truth. If he didn't then, why should he now...especially when he's got millions of dollar riding on it. He has a lot of questions to answer for...blood on his hands...no way does coming out with a "tell-all" a way for him to "come clean". If he wanted to do that, he'd go to Pat Fitzgerald or the House Judiciary committee and put his statements on the record...not in some book that he profits from.

Damn right the timing is worth questioning. A year from now when this regime is gone, his value won't be as high as it is now. I suspect that we'll see others come out in the months to come as well...cashing in while the cashing is good. If they were really interested in clearing the air, they'd do it under oath, not in some media circus.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:23 AM
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14. I love cynicism!
I'm not arguing with you at all! :hi:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:26 AM
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15. We Have Something In Common...
I love your posts.

I'm just trying to keep two feet on the ground here. Yep, what Snotty says sure sounds good, but how many times have we been led down the garden path? This goon is trying to push his case in the "court of public opinion" when this really belongs in a court of law.

Cheers...

:hi:
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:28 AM
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16. Said the same thing on another thread
:hi:

We are going to have to get coffee, drinks or whatever in the near future....


(moving from Wheaton to Sugar Grove on July 1!)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:31 AM
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18. I'll Wave On My Way Past On I-88 (Or Is That Still I-5?) LOL
I was wondering if I was the only one here thinking this. Of course I should know better. Might be fun to dig up some of the old DU posts from that time...there were some folks here doing some good digging.

If you ever get up to the NW burbs, the drinks (your pick) are on me!

:toast:
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:29 AM
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17. Given the testimony all of the former Bush officials who've resigned/been fired to date
I have little doubt that most of their observations and recollections are accurate and that it's not just a bunch of disgruntled former employees. You know what they say, "where there's smoke, there's fire" and these people (i.e. O'Neil, Clarke, McClellan, Powell) experienced everything firsthand and most of their stories and observations seem credible based on what is already in the public record regarding the general behavior and conduct of the Bush (mis-)administration. So I doubt that they are all just a bunch of big fat liars trying to cash in on their former positions within the (mis-)administration and I think that it's great that they have "seen the light" and genuinely hope to make a difference by shedding some light about how the Bush (mis-)administration has GROSSLY mis-managed our federal government.
My biggest problem with some of these people is that they waited until it wouldn't make a difference politically what they said to speak out. It's kind of like how some of the news media (i.e. New York Times) sat on some stories (i.e. warrantless wiretapping) that may have ultimately cost Bush the 2004 election until AFTER he was safely inaugurated for his second term. The most glaring example of these "mea culpas" is Powell and his personal feelings about invading/occupying Iraq. He was in a prime spot to oppose Bush on Iraq and (maybe) prevent him from launching his invasion in the first place but instead of resigning and speaking out against Bush's plans (and giving some more legitimacy to the anti-war movement), he decided to go along with Bush and gave his infamous February 2003 UN presentation using information that, according to some accounts, he had sincere qualms about himself, but which (somehow) ultimately helped the "case" for invading/occupying Iraq, at least among the American public.
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