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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:22 AM
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need some help debunking a right wing email called Obama LIES
Is there a site or thread already debunking this?

Obama Lies:

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and Baraka (from which Barack came) means blessed in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has since stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don't Have Lobbyists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple and in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin, you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem and you avoid answering when someone asks you why.

49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart, and after making that declaration, she QUICKLY resigned.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:26 AM
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1. what proof Obama even said this shit?? but Snopes is on it
Edited on Wed May-28-08 11:28 AM by AZDemDist6
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:26 AM
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2. Go to snopes.com
its probably there already.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:28 AM
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Yup. Here's the link
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:34 AM
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6. perfect!!! thanks.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:52 PM
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9. That does not
do it for me.
Not enough denials there.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:27 AM
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3. They can piss off if they can't vote for the Democratic nominee
Edited on Wed May-28-08 11:28 AM by YOY
If they want McCrazy then go for it.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:28 AM
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4. don't waste your time
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:31 AM
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5. Send it back and ask for sources of Obama's saying those things and sources for the
writer conflicting statements. No sources, the writer has nothing.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:45 AM
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7. Wearing a flag pin makes you patriotic?
I'm sure the KGB used that plenty of times to get past people as stupid as the writer when they wanted government secrets. Just put the hammer & sickle away, pin on Ol' Glory and stupid fucks will salute them as they walk in the front door of the Pentagon.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:02 PM
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8. Number five is especially curious
Not that one of his grandmothers was a Muslim, but the part about Christianity not allowing plural marriage. The Bible contains a LOT of references to plural marriage, since at the time the practice was to marry women to men with the best seed, so as to ensure lots of children. You needed a lot of children if you expected any of them to survive to adulthood.

If you go by the Biblical description of Christianity, not only would Jesus have been fine with Barack Obama's grandma being one of many wives to the same man, he would have been highly UNhappy with the present situation. One wife? Not good.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:57 PM
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10. And "Debunking" Will Help How???
Those who write and read this shit already have made up their minds...this is just more of the same crap. Truth is that there are still many racists out there that will try to "legitimize" something Obama said or that they made up...or who he's associated with as a way to let their true racist feelings come to the fore...and then when they're called out on it say that those say they're racists must be racists as well.

Bottom line...this swill will keep circulating and any attention it gets just accomplishes what the slimer hoped for...attention!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:58 PM
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11. I saw this at an anti-Obama site called "The Audacity of Deception & Hypocrisy."
Edited on Wed May-28-08 01:02 PM by Perry Logan
Since millions of Democrats and Republicans have united in opposition to Obama, I can't realy tell if it's a right-wing site.

The list of lies is updated regularly, as Obama tells new lies, and old lies are discovered. There are now 68 alleged Obama lies. Here are the new ones:

51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO
ofWal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her
already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3
years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided
to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this,
you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then
Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko
(first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying
YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your
campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who
married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person
of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who
married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its
message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly
disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko,
you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi
Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama
buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi
expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days
later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that
church? Yes I did.”
59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy
Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to
hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!
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60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your
Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to
despise America.
61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s
comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. <03/30/2008> One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist
William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed
khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian
terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren’t
there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. <03/30/2008> You and your campaign buddy
Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has
taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395
from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from
Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley,
$1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs.
I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion - LIAR -
<03/31/2008> It was found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended
version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one
answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey
65) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - <03/31/2008> Obama was the first to play the race card.
According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack
Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic
primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has
deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read
more here
66) I did not take money from oil companies: - LIAR - <03/31/2008>
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is
illegal for corporations to give money to politicians. Corporations, however, do have political action
committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama
doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.
But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his
fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly
$214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the
nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers
and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly
$394,000, according to the center’s totals.
Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based
Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil
Co. Source: Associated press via Yahoo News
67) “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial,” Obama said at a community meeting in
Nelsonville, Ohio, earlier this month. - LIAR - But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear
him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech
yesterday in Philadelphia.
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68) Look at my education record in Illinois - LIAR - In reality, Obama never really championed the local
councils. He supported them behind the scenes and only eventually came out publicly on their behalf.
When he did weigh in, he came down on the wrong side of the debate—against protecting principals from
unwarranted dismissals and in favor of keeping councils independent, no matter what. In the end, the
resolution of the conflict between the two sides didn’t alleviate anyone’s concerns. Instead, it prolonged a
turf battle that seems to have dragged down academic progress in the years since. Read more here
http://www.slate.com/id/2188010?wpisrc=newsletter
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