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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:37 PM
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Tweety Is Smokin' Hot Tonight
He has been on this case since Rove called him and said Wilson's wife is fair game, a conversation he then reported to Wilson. Gregory was basically blaming everyone but the media and Tweety came back at him with the Miller/Gordon piece which the sdmin planted and then a loop de loop the next morning on all the talk shows. He got Gregory and Allen to admit that they and the press were manipulated.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:43 PM
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1. "The women like this war."
Edited on Wed May-28-08 04:44 PM by WilliamPitt
"We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical, who’s not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who’s president. Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war.”

- Chris Matthews, ‘Hardball’ on MSNBC, 05/01/03

http://unansweredquestions.org/index.php/2003/05/14/uq-wire-the-women-like-this-war/

I wrote that five years ago. Still makes me choke.

Fuck him.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:56 PM
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2. Ah, His Man Crush Phase
Good piece, too bad I can't R it.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:59 PM
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3. Good God. Remember that?
Who was on with him that day, Liddy, right? Between the two of them, they were covering the floor with drool. And now Matthews is talking like he wasn't one of the war's (and W's) biggest cheerleaders.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:23 PM
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16. Yes, it was Liddy
And they actually talked about his "package." I'll NEVER forget that. Liddy says "he just won the vote of every woman in America." Like we vote based on penis size! Or I guess he just thinks we vote for the biggest DICK, since that is what we had at the time.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:01 AM
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17. Yes. Didn't Liddy say,
"Who says size doesn't matter? Look at that!" Ugh! :puke:
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:26 AM
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18. YES. The whole thing was disgusting and pornographic
And I will NEVER forget it.


:puke:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 04:59 PM
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4. "We are all Neocons now."
I'll take what I can get from Tweety, I guess, but I won't be watching his show.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:02 PM
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5. His man crush on the Mission Accomplish speech was unforgivable
But today, I'm giving him a pass till his flakey soul blows another direction
which could change by the hour.

I still say fuck him and Scotty but it does put a smile on my face knowing
the shit is coming down.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:14 PM
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14. The Call To Wilson
And he and Shuster holding feet to the fire with the Plame matter went a long way with me
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:02 PM
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6. Will, I'd forgotten about that little gem.
Does make one gag, doesn't it?

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:17 PM
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15. Bill Clinton July 2003
"What happened often happens," Clinton told Larry King. "There was a disagreement between British intelligence and American intelligence. The president said it was British intelligence that said it. . . . . British intelligence still maintains that they think the nuclear story was true. I don't know what was true, what was false. I thought the White House did the right thing in just saying, 'Well, we probably shouldn't have said that.' "

Bill Clinton didn't know?? Right. You betcha.

I don't care about some dimwitted media pundit. The former President who now claims to have been against the war from the start - he's the one we should be scrutinizing.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:41 AM
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20. McClellan's book is a
result of his being angry that he was played for a fool on the Plame scandal. It uses the war in Iraq as a vehicle to show what the motivation was for Cheney, Libby, and Rove to attack Joseph Wilson in the manner they did.

Mr. Matthews did a few very offensive segments on the war. He also did some that were very good. So, although the record shows he was against the war when it started, it is fair to say that his reporting was inconsistent, and sometimes troubling.

Mr. Matthews reporting on the range of issues involved in the Plame scandal was the best in the corporate media. The Libby trial exposed the fact that Cheney and Libby were monitoring his show as closely as J. Edgar Hoover monitored his enemies' bedrooms. Libby and Wolfowitz called Matthews' supervisors, and Tim Russert, to complain about Matthews' reporting on the scandal. Joseph Wilson mentions Matthews calling to warn him about the call from Karl Rove on the first page in his book.

During the Libby trial, Mr. Matthews continued to focus attention on VP Cheney's role, and made clear that he believed Cheney was a co-conspirator. Mr. Matthews has also been on the record -- again, on page 1 of Wilson's book -- as saying he would confirm the things he knew "if asked." We should be pressing the people in Congress to bring Mr. Matthews in, as well as Scott McClellan. I am confident that he could provide a Congressional committee with some valuable information.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:58 AM
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21. I Absolutely Agree With You
His inconsistencies drive people nuts because he can't be pinned down. I notice he has been a lot more combative since he got rid of his old producer. I also note that one night during coverage of one of the primaries when they were all getting wacky, he said his bosses at MSNBC supported the war. There was also a reporter on CNN last night who used to work at MSNBC who said that her bosses were heavy handed in forming a positive opinion for and of the war.

As for Plame, CM and Shuster were the best. There are still unanswered questions for we know that on that Friday when there were rumors that Rove was going to be indicted that CM had prepared to devote his entire show to it. I'd love to know what really happened. We know about the Novak woman coming forward at the last minute, but was that it, was that enough to stop it?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:06 AM
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23. David Shuster got
a lot of direction from Matthews on the case.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:27 AM
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27. Apparently, Tweety has changed his tune
Edited on Thu May-29-08 09:34 AM by kskiska
Matthews Rants About Empty-Headed Bush, Wants 'Smarter' President
Declaring that "I think the next President's got to be stronger and smarter than this one," on Tuesday's Imus in the Morning, MSNBC's Chris Matthews went on a tirade for over two minutes against President Bush and those around him who filled his intellectual vacuum. "All they care about is ideology," Matthews fretted as he charged: "The President bought it hook, line and sinker." Matthews delivered insults as he asserted that Bush "trusts the intellectuals....they're a bunch of pencil-necks and now he buys completely their ideology because he didn't have one of his own coming in. That was his problem. I don't know what Bush stood for except 'I'm a cool guy and Gore isn't.'" The Hardball host yearned: "I hope the next election isn't a problem of who goes to bed with their wife at 9:30 at night or who knows how to tell a joke on a stage, but it's who has the sense of strength that comes from having read books most of their life, tried to understand history." Though Matthews didn't warn of "every single" bad development in Iraq, he contended that "every single thing that's happened in Iraq was predicted by history" and lamented that "Bush didn't have the academic background to challenge" the ignorant ideologues who ignored history.

http://www.mrc.org/cyberalerts/2006/cyb20060726.asp
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:33 AM
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28. Thanks for the snip and link...that's very interesting what Matthews says there.
I was surprised at how he went after Ari Fleisher last night on Hardball. He seems genuinely angry about Cheney and Scooter's collusion with Rove to out Plame. Glad he's still focusing on that.

He also brought out that he was hearing from folks in the White House a meme that "something has changed with McClellan--he's not the person we knew," and he accused Ari and the rest of pushing this to discredit Scotty.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:02 PM
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7. yes once Bush's poll numbers went into the toilet some of the barking brigade
decided to start unloving him.

Sorry Bighead, way too late.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:04 PM
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8. Expect more defections
You can dredge up all the toady comments you want, but savvy "reporters" (I use the word loosely, as simpering-shills-who-broadcast-the-White-House-line-verbatim is a bit unwieldy) will be jumping the Bu**sh** ship before it sinks and they are denied access to the next administration. Tweety is the first one, actually questioning a RW radio shill, and today we see Katey Couric pointing to her old x-rays saying "see, I do so have a backbone!" It is going to be a fun process to watch over the next 6 months and toward the end, ol' Dubya is going to get the respect from the press corps that he deserved all along -- none.

Scramble, you sea squirts, your days of regurgitating talking points is coming to a close and you are going to have to do something for a living instead of look good on camera. :rofl: I unclog my nose in your general direction!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:08 PM
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11. If you're lookin for a shorter term for these assbites
"stenographers" fits as well as anything.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:10 PM
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13. and of course they'll all be truth tellers when a democrat wins the wh, all the sucking
up they've done to the current admin will stop on 1-20-09.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:06 PM
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9. Kinda kice to see the 'liberal media' acting like it for a change.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:07 PM
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10. And when his corprat masters get ahold of him, he will cool off. I don't trust him.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:10 PM
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12. Go tweets go. nt
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:27 AM
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19. You mean THIS Tweety?
"We're all neo-cons now." - Chris Matthews
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:04 AM
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22. Oh. Like Tweety has NOT carried water for Shrub, besides drooling all over him. n/t
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Ferd Berfle Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:14 AM
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24. Tweety's entire show was structured to discredit McCellan
I forced my self to watch a bit but just couldn't stomach watching the whole thing.
The Nazi twins were particularly on point.


Did you catch Buchannan's SPECIAL frames he was tossing out?

DEMOCRATIC-imperialism
DEMOCRATIC-imperialism
DEMOCRATIC-imperialism

just about the only time the word "Democratic" comes out of his mouth is when he can negatively frame the word


Mathew's is just another Reich-wing stooge and always will be but, he WILL attempt to take the Judas-Goat role if you allow him to.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:29 AM
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25. I Disagree, Or At Least Saw It Differently
I thought the one on the hot seat was Gregory. McCellan's book was vindication for all the reporting Mathews and Shuster had done on Plame
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:37 AM
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26. I agree.
More, Mr. Buchanan's statements on "democratic imperialism" wasn't a reference to the democratic party. It was clearly a reference to the Bush administration's policy, which the president has frequently noted promotes democracy in the Middle East.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:38 AM
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29. I thought Tweety's interview with Ari was incredible. He held his feet to the fire
and Ari seemed to get caught in his own misleading statements as Matthew's grilled him about "Do you think Scooter was guilty?" over and over.

I thought it was one of the best shows Matthews has ever done...and he seemed genuinely angry about the revelations of the collusions between Rove, Libby and Cheney. Matthews has been consistent in his dislike of Cheney. One of the few folks he's consistently disapproved of...considering we know Tweety tends to go back and forth in his views of Bushies on his show.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:12 AM
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31. Yep
:thumbsup:
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 11:09 AM
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30. Tweety is a wind sock
but one has to admit, a really good wind sock.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:24 PM
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32. He "Socks" when the evidence is so overwhelming...it goes to his Catholic Grade School Conscience..
Edited on Thu May-29-08 06:26 PM by KoKo01
and we gotta be glad that there is still "diversity" in religious training..because it does help...in the "mix" of things between all the Non-Believers in Moral Compass and those who will do anything because "they are only hear on this earth ONCE and so they better make the most of it" before their buddies throw their ashes out to the sea or over a beloved land place.

Moral Compass... Does it come from Religion or from Within, without Religious upbringing? :shrug: I don't know the answer...but I was an "indoctrinated Religious" so I can hardly be fair. :D
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