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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:53 PM
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Sooooo.....when do the impeachment hearings start?
Will Scotty become the reluctant star witness for the prosecution?

Seriously, how can Congress not consider the question? If we can impeach a President for lying about a personal sexual matter, does lying about a casus belli that kills/wounds 100's of thousands of innocents, wastes a trillion dollars, and destroys out international reputation meet this rather low threshold definition?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:57 PM
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1. I seriously doubt that we have enough guts in Congress to Impeach....
It hasn't happened to date, so I don't really expect anything to change now.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:28 PM
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2. I wonder if Scotty's got some copies of those missing emails
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:40 PM
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3. I think the reality check is that there will be no impeachment, just like last year.
Just like the frenzy there was by all of those who were convinced that Gore would run.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. It doesn't matter what he was lying about, just that he did it under oath. Judges tend to take a dim view of those who lie under oath, including finger wagging Bill.
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GreenInNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:55 PM
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4. never happen
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GreenInNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:56 PM
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5. about the same time Rove gets indicted
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:58 PM
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6. k&r!

Impeach! Indict! Incarcerate!
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:07 AM
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14. That scrolling message....
Belongs on one of those electronic license-plate thingies we were talking about last week! :patriot:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:02 PM
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7. KR2. Agree wholeheartedly, Old and In the Way.
Here in Motown, the freeway bloggers have been busy with "Impeach" signs. Where the heck is Congress?
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 09:23 PM
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8. Don't you fret now. Pelosi is clearing a nice
spot in the dust and cobwebs underneath the table that impeachment is "off of" just for Scotty's new tome. Oh, there might be a few more committee hearings for show, a few more unanswered and sneered at subpoenas, a few more tsk-tsks and harrumphs, but no impeachment. I have completely given up on this Congress. With only a tiny handful of exceptions, they are an utter disgrace.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:11 PM
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9. K & R! Damn it!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:14 PM
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10. Wexler addresses your concerns:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:14 PM
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11. k r'd no 5
Scotty should be under the Witness Protection Program until those hearings.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:51 PM
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12. TREASON.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:13 AM
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13. TORTURE
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:10 AM
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15. An email from Wexler
Dear (mmonk),

Last night, significant news broke that directly impacts our push for Impeachment Hearings and a possible Inherent Contempt charge for Bush Administration officials such as Karl Rove:

Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan has revealed in his upcoming book that:

• Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and Vice President Cheney lied about their role in revealing the identity of Valerie Plame Wilson – actions easily amounting to obstruction of Justice.

McClellan also admitted that:

• There was a coordinated effort within the Bush Administration to use propaganda to pump up the case for the Iraq war and hide the projected costs of the war from the public.

Scott McClellan must be called to testify under oath before the House Judiciary Committee to tell Congress and the American people everything he knows about this massive effort by the White House to deceive this nation into war.

Last week, a subpoena was issued for Karl Rove to testify before the Judiciary Committee. It appears he will take every legal action to block this subpoena. The truth is that Congress has the right – and obligation – to hold him accountable now - not months or years from now. It is long past time to pass Inherent Contempt and bring Rove, Libby and others before Congress.

We simply cannot ignore these recent developments, nor should we postpone serious inquiry until after the next election.

Your commitment to accountability for the Bush/Cheney Administration, and the support of 230,000 other Americans who signed up at wexlerwantshearings.com, has inspired and motivated me in my effort to hold impeachment hearings for Vice President Dick Cheney and Inherent Contempt for Rove and others. During the past months I have been a tireless and dogged advocate of this vitally important cause.

Many of you have written me, asking for an update on where we stand with regards to impeachment hearings. I know most of you believe - as I do - that impeachment hearings for Vice President Cheney – are not only justified, but that it is our constitutional obligation to look into the serious allegations of wrongdoing that have been raised. This is especially true based on the newest revelations from Scott McClellan.

I believe that it is the duty of Congress to pursue impeachment whenever there's significant evidence of wrongdoing, be it by Republicans or Democrats, regardless of the timing of elections or the current political environment.

Some of you have written me demanding that I deliver hearings or impeachment. As hard as I have been fighting for this cause, I cannot make impeachment happen by myself. What I can do, and what I have been doing at every turn, is trying to communicate two simple messages to my colleagues:

• the serious allegations of wrongdoing and the clear-cut rationale for impeachment hearings;and
• the fact that the public will support our efforts when Congress boldly acts on the side of justice and accountability.

Unfortunately, to date, these arguments have not been enough to convince even a majority of the liberal and progressive Members of Congress to support impeachment hearings. In addition, the leadership of the Democratic Party in Congress genuinely feels that pursuing impeachment will jeopardize our congressional agenda and threaten gains in the November elections. Although I genuinely disagree with this view, to date I have been unable to convince them to change this policy.

I understand the challenges that we are up against, and I recognize the odds that we face. Nevertheless, I remain unfazed and unyielding.

This new evidence from Scott McClellan could be the tipping point – but we must move quickly. I will use the McClellan admissions to help convince my colleagues that we must hold impeachment hearings.

Regardless, I will continue to fight for progressive values and our Constitution. I will do everything I can to pursue accountability for criminal actions taken by this Administration and this Vice President. I will be a furious opponent to any expansion of this misguided war, and I will fight against the use of torture by our government and to protect our civil liberties here at home.

Most of all, I will continue my efforts to convince my fellow members of Congress and voters, that we should not be a party of passivity - but that we succeed when we present the public with stark choices that are based on the guarantees in our Constitution, and not on the politics of the moment.

I will continue - at every pass - to call for impeachment and accountability. While I wish more of my colleagues supported our movement, we must not let our discouragement lead to apathy and distraction in this important election year when we must break free from eight long years of illegalities, corporate handouts, and a tragic and devastating war.

We should not end the calls for impeachment. I will push against the crimes of the Bush Administration whenever I am provided the opportunity. I will use my role on the Judiciary Committee to take on Administration officials – like I have done with Condoleezza Rice, Attorney Generals Gonzalez and Mukasey, and FBI Director Mueller.

I have not given up our fight to hold this Administration accountable and neither can you. I am grateful for your patriotism and your support. I'll continue to keep you informed and part of the conversation.

Sincerely,

Congressman Robert Wexler


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