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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:02 PM
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Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August' (Asia Times Front Page)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JE28Ak01.html

NEW YORK - The George W Bush administration plans to launch an air strike against Iran within the next two months, an informed source tells Asia Times Online, echoing other reports that have surfaced in the media in the United States recently.

Two key US senators briefed on the attack planned to go public with their opposition to the move, according to the source, but their projected New York Times op-ed piece has yet to appear.

The source, a retired US career diplomat and former assistant secretary of state still active in the foreign affairs community, speaking anonymously, said last week that the US plans an air strike against the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC). The air strike would target the headquarters of the IRGC's elite Quds force. With an estimated strength of up to 90,000 fighters, the Quds' stated mission is to spread Iran's revolution of 1979 throughout the region.
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Sense in the senate
Details provided by the administration raised alarm bells on Capitol Hill, the source said. After receiving secret briefings on the planned air strike, Senator Diane Feinstein, Democrat of California, and Senator Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana, said they would write a New York Times op-ed piece "within days", the source said last week, to express their opposition. Feinstein is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Lugar is the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee.

Senate offices were closed for the US Memorial Day holiday, so Feinstein and Lugar were not available for comment.

Given their obligations to uphold the secrecy of classified information, it is unlikely the senators would reveal the Bush administration's plan or their knowledge of it. However, going public on the issue, even without specifics, would likely create a public groundswell of criticism that could induce the Bush administration reconsider its plan.
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Ok NYT where is Feinsteins & Lugars op ed Piece???

was it squashed and why do I have to read this in the Asia Times
:argh:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:03 PM
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1. Fuck... just goddammmit all to fucking hell
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:03 PM
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2. K&R.
Please help pass this along. Thanks, lovuian.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:07 PM
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3. That would be absolute fucking insanity at it's highest level....
If we have any powers out there that can stop this, they better get involved otherwise we are no doubt headed for new world war. The next war very likely will be literally earth shattering...
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:29 PM
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13. That would be us
Because the current "Dem" leadership apparently is not going to take advantage of the current mood of the current Republicans who are desperately trying to distance themselves from shrub in an effort to save their political skins in November. I mean, I get emails on the votes of Cornyn, Hutchison, and even my uber Bush suckup Congressman Kevin Brady. My jaw has dropped to see them casting votes that two years ago they would NEVER have cast.

If we want to stop Iran, we are going to have to leave work, march to Washington, and take the fucker out of the White House before he can push the button. The problem is, ALL of us are going to have to go. Like that will happen. But the very least each of us can do is to take a day off work and take to the streets with pots and pans. ALL of us.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:38 PM
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16. I think your right
I can guarantee the Apathy will be gone
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:07 PM
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4. that will send oil price between $200 to $300 dollar a barrel right before the election
gas at the pump will be through the ceiling; perhaps $7.00 to $10.00 a gallon

I would have trouble believing he would do that prior to the election.

But, who knows?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:09 PM
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5. Oh and millions of people will probably die! n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:13 PM
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8. Part of the shock and awe strategy.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:10 PM
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6. What AIPAC wants...
Edited on Wed May-28-08 10:13 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...AIPAC gets. Period.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:12 PM
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7. if the military will go along with his plan.....
i put little stock in the asian times
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:16 PM
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11. Don't you mean the Likud right wing party?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:14 PM
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9. They are going to enact Martial Law Presidential 51
Edited on Wed May-28-08 10:19 PM by lovuian
and stop the elections

But looking in the looking glass this country will see a Civil War that continues to be waged

I see states seceding after this one
People are pretty fed up

We are going to see troops coming in from other countries to enforce it

These guys totally underestimate the American know how

Bring it on Bush Bring it On your going to regret it

You WILL FAIL

People get ready to bunker down

The Big Secret Revealed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS29XtZaX0k

National Security Presidential Directive 51

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4BVHpbNRsk

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MikeDuffy Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:15 PM
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10. Denial of this reported by RawStory.com:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:19 PM
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12. Thank you for posting this!
I have been disgusted all day!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:33 PM
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14. Is Raw Story got that facts and denying Cohen's source
Cohen said his source for the latest report was a "retired US career diplomat and former assistant secretary of state still active in the foreign affairs community" who was an ambassador under President Bush's father, George H.W. Bush. Few precise details about the supposed strike were offered in the Asia Times report

So we have Asia Times and Raw Story and NO US papers

Its in the Pakistan Daily

http://www.daily.pk/world/americas/99-americas/3981-george-w-bush-has-plans-for-air-strike-on-iran-by-august.html

Here is a INFO WARS link
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ww3/iran_podhoretz_bush_to_bomb_iran_before_leaving_office.htm

Podhoretz: Bush to Bomb Iran Before Leaving Office

In normal, non-Bushzarro times, a man calling for mass murder would be held in contempt, not held up as an example of the political mainstream and heralded as a �distinguished author.� However, as we are well astride of the Bushzarro era, Norman Podhoretz is provided with a venue�for the proper audience, of course�to advocate the destruction of Iran and the murder of possibly thousands of its citizens. �I believe,� Podhoretz told the Israel Broadcast Authority on May 24 (see video below), �contrary to what many people assume, that will before he leaves office, possibly shortly before he leaves office,� thus leaving the political fallout to the incoming president, more than likely a Democrat. �I think he agrees with the analysis that I offer that there is no alternative to military action.�

Of course, in order to sell this invasion of a sovereign nation, based on illusory claims the mullahs of Iran are in the process of building a nuclear bomb to use against Israel�a crackpot theory but one that remarkably has gained a degree of credence in the United States�Podhoretz and the neocons have erected an elaborate if preposterous edifice to support their Brothers Grimm fable about Iran

more...

Looks like Podhoretz has put a News cast in Israel

Finally, the Podhoretz appearance on Israeli television and his avowed declaration Bush will certainly invade Iran arrives less than two weeks after out-going United Nations ambassador John Bolton told the Daily Telegraph �Iran would be as dangerous as �Hitler marching into the Rhineland' in 1936 and should be prevented by Western military strikes if necessary�. The Pentagon has drawn up contingency plans for military action and some senior White House officials share Mr Bolton's thinking.�

http://www.youtube.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bLq6pzOc5w
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:50 PM
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18. I'm not clear on this part of your post.
"Is Raw Story got that facts and denying Cohen's source" Did you make a mistake or is that what you meant to say?

All the conflicting reports! Our fucking media is a travesty! Americans relying on Asian news! What the fuck is that! Christ! I think I'll just go rip off my face!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 02:33 PM
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26. You got what I was saying conflicting reports
our news media is awful quiet
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:37 PM
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15. Hmm. Muhammed Cohen. What's in a name?
And though I was skeptical when I saw his name, I know that Nancy Pelosi kept a secret about the torture stuff too.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:52 PM
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19. Not a damn thing!
And I am very confussed at this point.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:57 PM
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21. What? About the name or about what the hell does Pelosi have to do with this? n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:00 PM
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22. The name.
And the story.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:22 PM
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23. Muhammed Cohen
Call me a stereotyping bigot, but I find it unusual that a (generally) Arabic first name and a (generally) Jewish last time would end up on the byline. Just a bit fishy, but not unheard-of. Sort of like Isaac Ishmael.

But I find it likely that Bush would plan to screw up the election by invading Iran. I think he's got folks on the payroll in the UN who are rumbling about Iran and thus helping to justify such an invasion. I'm not convinced that the story wasn't a valid leak.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:39 PM
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24. Well I wouldn't trust the bushitler bunch at an ant pile festival,
and these kinds of things being printed everywhere but here is very confussing when we have denials from people we should be able to trust here. Just frustrating trying to sort out the truth.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:47 PM
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17. I don't think they will because its not good strategy for them - unless ....
....unless its martial law. And I'll be the first to come back (if we can) and admit how stupid I was if that happens, but I just don't see that possibility right now.

I think you'd have to have a candidate likely to win that was far more of a corporate threat before corporate masters would sanction such a move. Martial law is bad for business, and would tank the global economy.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 10:52 PM
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20. Wouldn't such an attack be better in October, before Americans can realize it was a mistake?
While I can understand the logic in a move like this close to the election, to try to paint democrats as weak on defense by being against the Iran attack, and pushing through a bunch of propaganda to justify it, doing it in August makes no sense. By that point Iran or some other Muslim group would have surely retaliated in some way against the US, and cause Americans to see that it was mistake to attack Iran since it made things worse in the middle east.

Although I guess doing it in October could backfire to, and be more likely to be seen as an attempt to help secure the White house for McCain by trying to score a 'victory' right before the election.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 02:32 PM
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25. kick
:kick:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 02:36 PM
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27. Sigh. Not this again.
This has been debunked every three months for the past three years. Would they like to bomb Iran? Undoubtedly. Do they have contingency plans for doing so? Of course. Are they planning on actually doing this? No, it continues to be a bogus story.
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