So how many DUers are surprised by what McClellan is saying?

[Mountainman]

Who here didn't think the run up to the war was a bunch of lies and propaganda? I doubt there is anyone who was a DUer in 2002 that is surprised at all. So why the feign of surprise by the media? They knew as well as we did that we were being lied to.

[davidinalameda]

1. maybe they're just shocked that he's telling the truth

no Bushies are known for their honesty

[calimary]

10. That would be it. Shocked that one positioned so high up might actually turn and

start telling the truth for a change.

I am still somewhat surprised that he pulled his punches on bush as much as he did. But it seems NO ONE, even as much as they're now finger-pointing, wants to go that extra step and flat-out say bush was as guilty. He's still trying to cover for bush. But the buck stops at that Resolute Desk at which bush stole the right to sit. I suspect that's probably their inability to be completely and indeed ruthlessly objective and truthful.

Some of them fell deeply in love with george w. bush. Here he came, swaggering out of Texas with his cute little drawl and his funny, "homespun" humor and his calculated charm and all those fun, adorable little nicknames he was bestowing upon the "chosen" ones who effectively curried his favor the quickest. They let themselves be swept off their feet by him. Gee, here's a guy I could go have a beer with! How cool is that? And he's got that cool macho swagger like the lone cowboy Captain America John Wayne hero of their dreams. And after that nasty ol' Bill Clinton and his amazing elevator zipper and the bimbo eruptions and the lies about sex and oh my oh my how sordid that all was - here was a breath of fresh air! And they fucking SWOONED. And they lost their heads completely. And objectivity flew straight out the window. He was their new hero and weren't we glad he came!!!!! The new King of the Cowboys, and he was all ours, 'eh? Next best thing to st. ronnie, anyway! And he's kinda cute, too.

And thus rendered favorably predisposed toward him, they laid down and died in front of him so he could walk all over them, which he did. And they were grateful and felt themselves exalted to be in his presence. This was different! HE was different! Sigh!

The French have a saying (I forget how to say it in French) about how - when the cock stands up the brains go into the ground. Well, the entire mainstream White House Press Corpse just completely lost its collective head, along with whatever objectivity and common sense might have been in there to begin with, once upon a time.

All that blood, carnage, destruction and ruin is on THEIR hands, too. And those who bleat about how it was partially the public's fault, and it was the mood of America at the time (as that idiot Ken doll Brian Williams whined) forget that THAT IS HOW THE PUBLIC FORMS ITS OPINIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. They develop their views based on what they hear and see on radio, TV and cable, and to a lesser extent print - and in some cases, foul, lie-filled, agenda-driven, wrong-wing nutcase websites like drudge and freeperville and newsmax and the rest of 'em. THAT'S how most of the public gets its info, from which it builds its own opinions. It's the media. The media is the message and the conclusion/decision-making gateway. And it utterly failed the entire country - if not the whole world.

BTW - I wrote a rant about this that just got picked up by Huffington Post!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-lyon/the-i-didnt-do-it-letter_b_103952.html

[hwmnbn]

15. Congratulations on your excellent Huffpo article....

I agree, Scotty could be the leak that bursts the dam.

May I also commend you on....

"And all the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten their little (blood-covered) hands.

I love that passage!

[calimary]

21. Thanks!

Tace posted it first (YAY!).

And yes, I love that whole segment of "MacBeth." OUT! Damned spot! ...and all that. BWAAAA-haaaaa-haaaaa...

Dang, that Will Shakespeare. Still relevant after all these years.

[malaise]

20. Great rant - It Wasn't Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia-2MygccCc

[Me.]

2. Just Shocked At Who's Doing The Talking

[Generic Brad]

7. And the fact that he is still alive to tell the tale

That surprises me more than anything.

[oldtime dfl_er]

3. You know what?

I knew he knew he was lying sometimes up there on the podium.

[blondeatlast]

4. Yep, just like Colin Powell. Re: Powell--I never saw anyone look so much

like they wanted to do the greyhound dash than I did Powell at the UN.

Given half a chance, he would have been in Pittsburg in ten minutes.

[Canuckistanian]

5. zzzkk... wha? Sorry, I was snoozing

Scotty saying something that suprised me?

Only that he said it.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. I think we underestimate what a closed circle jerk the inside the beltline crowd are...

we have the ability to think objectively - the media and the pols are thick in their own little world where their reality is a creation of the administration propaganda. Liberal media my ass!

[Mojorabbit]

9. Yes

watching the news shows tonight really highlighted this. They are totally out of touch with the rest of the country. They reinforce each other in their closed DC bubble. I read foreign papers. I read a ton of news about this country that never makes the papers here. Do they no longer do any real journalism? It is kind of frightening that I seem to know more about what is going on than they do.

[az chela]

8. I dont think anyone

On DU will be the least bit suprised!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kool Kitty]

11. The thing that amazes me the most about all this

brouhaha is the press' reaction. They are so pissed off at Scott saying that they didn't do their jobs and question more. They are so outraged, it's funny.

[harun]

22. Yah, it is nice to watch.

[KSinTX]

12. Never doubted it was bogus

The minute the shift went from Afghanistan to Iraq, I started a series of :wtf:s. It never made sense and I always thought Junior was trying to finish Daddy's legacy while simultaneously one-upping him.

[earth mom]

13. Sounds like the rats are fleeing the sinking ship all over the place and are protecting themselves.

:puke:

[WilliamPitt]

14. Mmmmmm...nah.

Pissed his story buried the report on McCain's economic advisors being balls-deep in the lobby to get a big French bank properly positioned to profit from the mortgage-forclosure meltdown.

One of 'em you've heard of...from Texas, name begins with 'G' and ends with 'amm,' and you'll go 'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' when you figure it out.

Sir Philip of Enron...Knight Errant sworn to serve The Maverick...

...hang on...

... :puke: ...

...sorry, the irony was too rich...

... :banghead: ...

[old mark]

16. Bush's defenders say the media has NOT

been lighthanded on reporting Bush's lies/failures/secrets.
I remember the storm of bullshit in the entire 8 years of Clinton,s administration-not a week without a new "scandal", and then another before that one went away. Where is the special investigator for GWB?
Where is the impeachment hearing, the lawsuit?

I doubt if my opinion of this administration could get any lower, but I may yet be proved wrong.

mark

[Pineywoods Sam]

17. Kiss and tell ? This is more like screw and yell

[Vinca]

18. Not shocked at the content, but shocked at the messenger. nt

[Hubert Flottz]

19. We are smarter than the media and the rose garden democrats

in Washington. WE were NEVER fooled by the BUSHit!