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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:20 PM
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Katie Couric just upticked a rung in my book. She just mea culpaed on 2003 war coverage
Excuse the mixed metaphor, but I'm pleased to see Couric come straight out and say administration pressure affected how the press covered the selling of the Iraq invasion in 2003 (and includied herself in that critique). Given the pressure corporate puts on their anchors, that's a pretty big admission.

Charlie Gibson, the supposed "elder statesman" of the big anchors said he'd do nothing different if he had it to do all over again. Brian Williams seemed to take a safe middle position.

Video is on TPM here ==> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/197473.php
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:21 PM
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1. She was the only one who even came close to telling the truth
Charlie Gibson and BW are sniveling punk-asses.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:24 PM
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2. I don't trust Tri-Delts
nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:24 PM
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3. Though there are key figures, this war belongs to All of us. nt
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:31 PM
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6. That's true. If you're American, regardless of your votes, there's blood on your hands.
Democracy means this government belongs to us. We don't escape culpability by claiming the mutt slipped off the leash.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:35 PM
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10. Thousands of small actions, done or not done, bring each of us to this point.
I'm not saying that people should be "perfect"; just that they should be self-aware. That alone will make Change possible.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:35 PM
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11. This started as and continues to be George Bush's illegal invasion and occupation.
IT never was a war and I own no part of it.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:37 PM
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12. This war is his and Dick's personal private property, a Private War, that we enabled
by letting them get elected in the first place.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:48 PM
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14. They were never elected. One illegal SCOTUS selection and one Corporate controlled count.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:50 PM
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15. Yes. I guess I'm mad at myself for believing in the whole thing for so long.
I was semi-aware, but hoping for the best until 2000, then the IWR, and then 2004; you'd think I would have changed more significantly in 2000.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:51 PM
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16. Do you pay taxes? Do you vote? Do you enjoy the protection of the US military & US prosperity?
You may not like what he did; you may not have approved. But it was done on your dime, too. It's your government as much as it is anyone else's. You benefit when the country does good--and our country does a lot of good in the world, which we justifiably take pride in.

Morally speaking, you can't then say you don't accept your responsibility for the bad things we do, too. When you fail to control your car and it runs over the neighbor's hedges, you don't get to say, "I wasn't in control, so it's not my car." You get to share this responsibility with 300 million other Americans, but this horror occurred on your watch, too.

In a million ways too subtle for you to ever count, you benefit from being a part of the American community. None of us get to pick and choose the responsibilities that come with that. We own the whole hog.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:19 PM
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23. I might be willing to accept some of the responsibility for the illegal immoral acts
of the current residence of our government if they had ever been legally elected. There was a coup in 2000. The SCOTUS illegally selected jr. I refuse to recognize the mis-administration of these psychopaths as my government. You can take all the hog you want. I will accept my share of the responsibility for cleaning up the mess they have made after we have a duly elected Representative government.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:28 PM
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4. She moved up a notch in my book
after I read about this yesterday.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:28 PM
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5. She should apologize to Michael Moore
She called him a jerk to his face when F 911 came out.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:34 PM
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9. If she said he was inaccurate, she should apologize. If she only called him "a jerk"...
that's just an opinion. I personally don't mind him being a jerk. An empire with pretentions to democracy needs to have a good number of jerks just to keep us in spitting distance of honesty.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:47 PM
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13. What she said...
was that most Democrats think that he is a jerk, insinuating that his support for Kerry would sink his chances to be elected.

BUT, Couric was nasty to Moore. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, he is what Mike had to say about his 2005 interview with Couric (bold emphasis mine).

Are you sitting there just as the triannual feeding frenzy is about to start thinking, ''Why didn't I make a nice fun movie like Canadian Bacon again?''

You know, I don't relish all the noise that surrounds me and my work. I'm still stunned when I read these comments: ''Oh, he must like the hype!'' The last time I was on TV was the Today show in January of 2005, when Katie Couric said to me, ''I'd rather rearrange my sock drawer than talk to you.'' And off camera she's so friendly! Telling me inside stuff like how < the White House > called the big shots at NBC to complain about an interview she did. She's telling me...how she actually got a memo, and this is in the early days of the war, saying tone it down! And I said to her during the commercial, ''Why don't you tell this on the air?'' And she says, ''Aww, I'd lose my job.'' ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You can't lose your job. You have your job. It's called the KATIE COURIC JOB! You can write an op-ed and let the public know how this kind of manipulation takes place. And she says, ''I have to really watch it.'' And then the red light comes on and she's on the attack. And that's when I said, ''I don't need this.'' < A spokesperson for Couric responds, ''Katie has done many hard-hitting interviews over the years. Her responsibilities as a journalist require that her questioning reflects several different viewpoints. I'm glad Katie left such an impression on Michael.'' >


http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=9811
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:53 PM
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17. Wow. He really seems to have had an influence on her.
No wonder there's chatter about her getting canned from the anchor slot.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:31 PM
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7. That's a start, IF SHE MAKES UP FOR IT NOW
I have a feeling she won't though. None of them will.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:33 PM
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8. She said the WH was censoring the networks and threatening them
She actually mentioned Ari - "The WH Press Secretary called..."
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 12:55 PM
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18. So what? It's now trendy to call lies what they are, and so she's on the bandwagon now.
Edited on Thu May-29-08 12:59 PM by hatrack
Just like she was on the bandwagon five years ago, shaking her overpaid butt and her "Navy SEALs ROCK!" poster from the front of the float.

Too late. So what? Who cares?
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T Monk Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:00 PM
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19. repackaging katie couric
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:09 PM
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20. She really had no where else to go.
You think she'd be doing this if her ratings were skyrocketing? Hell no, she's going to try this on for size and see where that puts her.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:11 PM
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21. Actually she does have someplace else to go: "60 Minutes".
I doubt she'll be anchoring a year from now.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:13 PM
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22. I always liked her, but I never understood why people treated her...
like a journalist. She never was one, IMO.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:19 PM
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24. Plausible Deniability
Katie wasn't in the anchor chair in 2003...she was doing cooking recipies and interviewing starlets on the Today Show. Williams and Gibson were blatant cheerleaders and still remain "on message" while their credibility fades away.

I'm glad Katie at least spoke some truth...a rareity in the corporate media culture and generally lethal to one's career. Just ask Ashley Banfield. Remember, Katie's mired in last place and the rumors are flying that she'll be gone soon. Maybe she and her network minders are noting the rise in Olbermann's ratings and seeing that telling some truth could be good business. If anything this may mark a shift in the corporate mindset, but there's a long way to go.
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:21 PM
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25. Had she not cozied up to Limbaugh her first Evening Newscast...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:25 PM
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26. Snotty's Scotty's book is having the unexpected but luscious side effect
Edited on Thu May-29-08 01:38 PM by rocknation
of forcing the MSM to fall over themselves trying to explain why they believed him in the first place!

:P
rocknation
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 01:28 PM
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27. Katie has done too much damage for me to trust her ever again.
This is probably nothing more than a means to an end for her-new job, revenge whatever.

Which proves just how selfish and self serving the corporate media is as a whole. :puke:
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