Kucinich -- "Who Are We, As A Nation, If Our Leaders Can Lie To Us

[slipslidingaway]

To Take Us Into War...What Kind of an Offense does it Take..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j0NIZCC6cA

[sakabatou]

1. Take it, Kucinich!

:bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause: :patriot: :bounce: :yourock: :applause:

[slipslidingaway]

5. Oh my eyes! But thanks, he does rock :) n/t

[Swamp Rat]

2. Who are we as a nation if our leaders refuse to impeach Bushler&Co and hold them accountable?

[lyonn]

4. Good one Swampy! nt

[slipslidingaway]

7. Nice... and so true. n/t

[lonestarnot]

3. Tell me whooooooooooo are we who who! Who the fuck are we?

[lyonn]

6. "we as a Nation". nt

[slipslidingaway]

8. I added some punctuation marks :) n/t

[lonestarnot]

12. Soright ssa, I was just sing'n.

The Who.

[slipslidingaway]

14. Missed the connection, know the song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWQ1erBnMo

[lonestarnot]

19. Thanks for the link!

[lonestarnot]

20. Here's one for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyIq_70SdF0

[slipslidingaway]

27. Thanks...

although this would be my preference.

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh1pfg90GOk

[malaise]

9. I love Dennis

He was right.

[slipslidingaway]

11. Yes he was, not only about the lack of intelligence to support an

invasion, but also about the impact on our economy. I'm sure he'll be on all the news stations this weekend.

:eyes:

[opihimoimoi]

10. WHO???? we are the Fooled, the Sheeple, the ignorant Masses, fragmented into tiny groups

brain washed beyond recognition, and mystified by the raw power of the Soverigns....

[slipslidingaway]

13. Sad but true, I was fooled or not always paying attention... not

anymore.

:hi:

[opihimoimoi]

15. Spread the Vision of Truth and Reason....

[slipslidingaway]

25. Trying :) n/t

[trickyguy]

16. Check out the psychiatric profile on Bush and find out a crazy man took us to war.

[slipslidingaway]

28. Well to DU :) n/t

[and-justice-for-all]

17. DK should be part of Obama's cabinet...nt

[mmonk]

18. A nation of sheep is governed by wolves.

That's where we find ourselves.

[slipslidingaway]

31. And now we want the Iraqi's to sell us fuel at reduced prices and

pay more for reconstruction.

:shrug:

http://www.fpif.org/fpifoped/5230

"Congress should stop blaming the Iraqi government for our economic woes. As our economy sputters to a halt and Congress is set to spend an additional $160 billion on the war, U.S. lawmakers are openly criticizing the Iraqi government for not paying the bills.

New legislation for funding the Iraq War includes language demanding Iraqis pay for half of future reconstruction and provide subsidies for fuel purchased by the U.S. military.

Such calls by lawmakers ignore the fact that the financial hardship our nation is suffering has much more to do with our own housing mess and with the high costs of the war than with the Iraqis not paying their way. And as a matter of fact, a recent audit by the inspector general for Iraq found that Iraq has spent more than the United States on reconstruction...


As tempting as it may be to try to make the Iraqis pay the massive bills the war is costing the United States, the best way to reduce the burden of the war and occupation on the U.S. economy is not to find someone else to foot the bill. It's to stop the war."



Kucinich Must Get Time From Repubs to Debate Iraq Funding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSnFvZ95EY

[Supersedeas]

21. Nancy Disaster has taken leadership off the table

[slipslidingaway]

32. True n/t

[windoe]

22. The coup of 2000 was the first big lie

and 911 the second big lie, the shock doctrine effect made it easy for this avalanche of descent into virtual corporate rule--and allowing ourselves to be redefined.

Who are we indeed, are we a Republic or are we what we are told to be--a Fascist state?

[slipslidingaway]

33. Going back even further and we still have not learned...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2663206


"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.. Let's THINK this time, 'kay?

Edited on Thu Nov-09-06 04:45 PM by SoCalDem

Iran Contra has long tentacles.. and if you go easy , you never know what's coming later

It's like the oldtime serials.. the bad guy lives to challenge another day..

We are still paying for "playing nice"

SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-20-05 06:08 AM

Original message


Now we know the true consequences of "going easy" on Iran Contra

Had the Dems (who DID control both houses of congress) pressed harder, and not contented themselves with the idea that GHWB (the wimp) would be easygoing, and inconsequential...well things would be very different now.,

Had Reagan/Bush gotten their just desserts for Iran Contra, and all the dirt been exposed, they would have left office, fully disgraced..GHWB probably would not have even gotten elected..Carter would be held in higher esteem...and There's no way in HELL that *² would have gotten appointed to the white house

The appointments to the SCOTUS that were made by GHWB would have been made by a democrat..Kennedy..Souter..Thomas would not be on the bench, and we would not be facing a right wing court for the foreseeable future.

The democratic party has always hated "piling on", and has been ready to "forgive and forget".

Look at all the key players in this administration.. Almost all of them have their roots in the Iran Contra Days, Grenada, Panama, and many other republican schemes.

We do ourselves and the country a great disservice when we let the "bad guys" off with a slap on the wrist.

republicans have no shame.. they wear their crimes like badges of honor..and like the energizer bunnies, they just keep on coming back..

This is why we cannot let them off the hook, and strong language and actions are necessary..

The only thing that republicans DO understand is PUBLIC HUMILIATION, and jail terms.

If you DO wrong, you need to be punished..not just turned out of office to go lick your wounds until next time"

[Norrin Radd]

23. kr

[JackBeck]

24. Remember during the early debates

when the cheers for his responses were the loudest?

If only the media wasn't governed by our corporate overlords.

[Individualist]

26. ...

and if only the voters wouldn't allow the media to determine who they'll vote for. :(

[slipslidingaway]

34. Yes, IMO the media is our biggest problem. They had to silence

his ideas for health care, accountability etc.

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. Wasn't kucinich the guy who promised to bring impeachment charges against Bush?

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/01/25/18474800.php

[slipslidingaway]

35. Our party just does not want to hold them accountable, I suspect

because too many of them went along with Bush.

[ProfessorGAC]

30. Maybe We Should Stop Looking For "Leaders"

Perhaps we should be electing REPRESENTATIVES AND ADMINISTRATORS.
The Professor

[slipslidingaway]

36. Agree! n/t