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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:37 AM
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So, we wacky 'conspiracy theorists' were right all along. GET OVER IT.
Edited on Fri May-30-08 06:08 AM by Philosoraptor
The war was unnecessary & based on lies, is this a 'Conspiracy Theory'?

When repubs want to instantly discredit anyone, they call them a conspiracy theorist, and make the crazy sign to their heads and roll their eyes heavenward, reducing critics to paranoid nutballs.

Yet, when two or more people conspire to do something, that's called a conspiracy, and that's no theory.

We've been saying all along what Scotty boy has written, and we've been called conspiracy theory nutballs a million times, yet, here we all are, has Scotty too become a screwball conspiracy theorist, just like us?

Was the exploitation of nine eleven and everything that's happened since a vast, right wing conspiracy, or is that just a whacky over-generalization?

I say we are all witnessing the greatest, most deceptive, most ghastly and horrific conspiracy EVER in our nation's history, and I don't think it can be dismissed as some screwball theory anymore.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:48 AM
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1. Unfortunately, to the right wing jobs,
truth is irrelevant. There may be a few left who will say, "Well, I'll be darned! So some of that whacko conspiracy stuff may be true after all."

May be a few. But I doubt it.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:49 AM
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2. I demand an apology from the repubs, & I suggest they GET OVER IT.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:57 AM
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3. I wonder what OTHER whacky theories of ours are actually true....
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:16 AM
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6. Exactly.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:17 AM
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7. According to them, ONE lie qualifies you for impeachment.
And it renders EVERYTHING you say unbelievable.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:15 AM
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19. Most of them.
Those who have been living in comfortable, carefully constructed realities for the past seven years are going to get a real shock.

If they can allow themselves to leave the Matrix.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:00 AM
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4. I Think Scotty Just Supplied Michael Moore With A Lot Of Material For His Sequel To F 9/11.......
I can't wait for that documentary to come out. I just wonder where MM is going to take us to in this one. We've all commented that everything we've suspected about this administration and talked about and tried to warn others about either has or is coming true. Scotty's book is further testament to that. What is left to be exposed that we talked about that *Co put us through.

Actually - I'm hoping Scotty writes more books to further expose the inner workings of *Co as well.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:02 AM
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5. If the truth weren't so cleverly hidden by lies, they'd be hung for treason.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:18 AM
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8. There's no shortage of DUers who likewise love to hurl the "wacky conspiracy theorist" epithet also
K&R
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:21 AM
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9. And BOY those people make their way to my Red X Toilet right quick.
No respect for people so willing to flame, instantly close debate and play BushCo's unknowing puppets.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:33 AM
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13. There are a few ongoing Dungeon threads which speak to this...
Well, not so much stemming from the typical 'too cool for conspiracies' DUer who prefers to be perceived as being too savvy and thrifty to acknowledge mass criminal conspiracies do occur and exist, but along the lines of those who exert a great deal of personal time and energy crusading against the views of those who do lend credence to the idea of conspiracy.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:59 AM
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17. I don't ignore anyone
They are too dangerous to ignore. While you may not see them, others more gullible might fall for their bullshit.

An enemy ignored is an enemy victorious.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:22 AM
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10. True. I've been wrong many times, & right a few times too.
And when I'm wrong, I roll with it, and when I'm right, I try not to gloat.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:48 AM
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22. yes, TOO many for my taste
they are the ones who relegate ANYTHING vaguely resembling a "conspiracy theory" to the dungeon, never to be seen again. :(
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maui9002 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:44 PM
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36. Just to clarify
There's a big difference between a "conspiracy" to convince the public and Congress to support the war in Iraq based on misinformation, disinformation, and just plain old lies, and a "conspiracy" by the U.S. government to perpetrate 9/11. I doubt many DUers will differ much with you on the former charge, which I thought was pretty evident from the get go; on the other hand, I don't think anything Scott McClellan has said provides any more evidence that the U.S. government was involved in a conspiracy to perpetrate what happened on 9/11 to justify a military adventure in Iraq.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:23 AM
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11. K&R
http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html

Do you mean like the GOPers in McCain's crew who have conspired with UBS/ENRON?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:27 AM
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12. P N A C
The CONs-piracysts' web site is gone, but their war crimes and treasons remain un-punished.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:35 AM
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14. George Carlin comments on 9/11 Truth and the NWO
"...consenus reality is often intentionally misleading."

"...they don't investigate themselves in this country."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow5_UYKaJ8
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:40 AM
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15. Another Carlin quote re conspiracy:
"And people say, Oh, your conspiracy thing. Listen, don't be making fun of the word "conspiracy". It has meaning. Powerful people have convergent interests. They don't always need a meeting to decide on something. They inhabit the same clubs. They sit on the same boards. They have all this common ownership and they are very few in number. They control everything, and they do whatever they want. two-party system keeps the people at bay. They give them microwaves, fanny packs, sneakers with lights in the heels, dustbusters, to keep them distracted, keep them just calm enough that they're not going to try something."
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:56 AM
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16. so the wearing of those unfashionable hats was not in vain after all
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:02 AM
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18. Fashion trend setters are first ridiculed, then emulated.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:26 AM
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20. As we knew the real conspiracy was between Bushco and
M$M
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 12:35 PM
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27. AND America's radical clergy!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:41 AM
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21. Bump
;-)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:48 AM
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23. I'm waiting to see if ANY of my "favorite" dungeon posters show up
Some people like to LUMP all CONSPIRACIES together to make us look CRAZY, will they use this one?

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:50 AM
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24. LOL..it's been surprisingly quiet, hasn't it? No Perry, bobo, or Sid, etc
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:59 PM
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29. ...almost like...a conspiracy?!?!?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:54 AM
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25. the last eight years are the culmination of a conspiracy that rivals any conspiracy in history,
not just in our nation
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 09:57 AM
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26. Anymore this country is one big PSYOP experiment
Although I'm sure plenty came to the same conclusion at various points throughout America's history.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:29 PM
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37. They are expert at 'branding;.
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 01:03 PM
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28. They label us what they are. Ironic? No, calculated.
The use of the word conspiracy is a sure way to discredit any theory. Let’s look at how people gather facts anymore.

In general, people get their bias/news from TeeVee, talk radio or church.

TeeVee news is practically worthless on a political level; I don’t believe I have to explain that corporations control government and government controls the MSM, on this forum.

I challenge anyone to convince me that the Clear Channel take over of am radio is out of a desire to entertain? The iron curtain was a coup, and the RW knows it. We do learn from history, the problem really is that the RW benefits when history is repeated.

I won’t start in on religion, which only invites a subthread. However, the battle of the cults continues and it would appear that some have merged forces, only to leave betrayal to the winner.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:01 PM
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30. VINDICATED
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 02:49 PM
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31. randi is talking about this--she just said something to the effect of
this was the greatest heist in the history of the world.

no shit.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 03:26 PM
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32. As I've said before...
at least here on Du, let's not repeat right-wing talking points such as "conspiracy theorists" or "tinfoil hat."

Those are smears, used to nip investigations into shady political activities in the bud with ridicule and contempt.

We need to re-frame all the words those decades-old CIA psy operatives have stolen from us: "Patriot", "liberal", "leftist"... the list is long.

We need to reframe our national conversation.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 05:42 PM
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33. .............
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:00 PM
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34. A War is raging & so far the MIC & the Multi-Corps winning.
:mad:
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 06:28 PM
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35. Been saying since 2001 we have been robbed
but no one really seemed to get it. Now the funny part is when I suggest suing War Profiteers to put our stolen tax dollars back into the Treasury where it belongs, it is like a funny punchline. Yeah riiiiiiiight. But this really has to happen--that IS where our money is, in the RECORD billions of dollars of profit by the oil and arms dealer companies. This money belongs to the vets, to American infrastructure, education and healthcare, ect.
This is no joke.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:12 AM
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41. At least Ceasar shared some of the war booty with the people, we don't git squat.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 10:33 PM
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38. It really pisses me off when people think conspiracy theorists...
at nuts.

I'm willing to bet they're more right than anyone.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:12 PM
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39. Conspiracy Fact
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:29 PM
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40. Way'at Philosoraptor!
:hi:



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:19 AM
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42. The Pub Party should be DisBanned....under the bus time....disconnected, deleted
Its a Cancerous org.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:24 AM
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43. I am not over it and I won't ever be
So there!

:hi:
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