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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:22 PM
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Intentionally creating chaos for personal glory is very troubling to me...
Edited on Sat May-31-08 01:25 PM by kentuck
as an American and as a human being. According to McClellan and others, this was Bush's theory of how he could become a "great" President. All great Presidents were "war" Presidents. He has been quoted by several sources that he would do it differently than his Dad if he were President. He would not hesitate to go to war. At least, he would not hesitate to send others to war.

Early in the Administration, his and the neo-con philosophy leaked out to an unsuspecting public that they believed you could "create your own reality". By creating chaos and war, they could create a new reality in the Middle East. They planned on attacking Saddam even before 9/11. In fact, there were several massive bombing missions in the summer before 9/11 in the Basra area. They were going to have their war.

But this theory is sub-human. It is criminal, in my opinion. To create war and upheaval so you can go down in history as a "great" man is incomprehensible to me. How could any rational person think in such a way? The answer is that they can't. It is an insane thought process that would create turmoil and chaos in order to "change the reality".

But throughout history, pain and suffering and death always "changes" reality. In Iraq, Bush and the Neo-cons wanted to create a capitalist utopia in the Middle East. At the heart of their "utopia" would be control of the natural resources of that region, namely oil. If a million people had to die to accomplish this "change", then so be it. That is the price that has to be paid. And in the process, the President goes down in history as a "great" man. That is the delusion that has been the guiding policy of this Adminstration for the last eight years.

But it troubles me that there are so many Americans that defend this policy. That there are so many citizens so easily brainwashed. But they were and they continue to be. The only weapon we have is the truth. Our leaders are insane.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:25 PM
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1. Oh, I thought this was another thread complaining about the posts in GD-P.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:26 PM
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8. And I thought it was a thread about Hillary not letting the nomination process have it's logical
conclusion!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:31 PM
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2. Subhuman is a good way
to describe this current, so-called "administration."

Democracy sounds like a great idea. I wish we had one here in America.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:35 PM
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3. And they ask....
Why do you hate America? What is to love about this America? :-(
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 02:48 PM
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6. I love my America
It exists mostly in theory now, but I'm starting to feel like one of the Founding Fathers (Founding LaBamba?) in that we are going to have a chance to rebuild it. Oh, man, I so hope so ..............
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:38 PM
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4. I won't say what I think should be done to any "president" who would
deliberately make war just for his or her own personal aggrandizement. But you can guess.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 01:53 PM
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5. may all of those who fomented these policies for their own glory, and all their
supporters and enablers, receive exactly what they deserve.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:18 PM
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7. recall how they would try and evoke a great struggle, a great overcoming...a great President
by bringing up FDR and WW2...in relation to Bush ,his actions, and the "war on terror"?

Sorta sensed then what Bush was hoping to achieve for the history books...not only hide to behind (all the crimes, erosion of rights, etc) but to give a lie some people could (did) cling to (greatness, liberation, good guys.

I agree...sub-human thinking










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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:40 PM
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9. Like a small kid that saw a monster...
"Yeah, it was 12 foot tall...and had these eyes with fire in them...and he came running after me...but I ran as fast as I could and I got away...If we don't kill the bad monster, he will come here and kill us...This war against the monsters will last a generation - just like WWII...and I will be a hero...and the people will love me because I saved them from the monsters."
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