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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:35 AM
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NYT: Are the Democrats Still Caving in on FISA and Telecom Spying Immunity?
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 07:36 AM by Phred42

Contact your members of COngress today - let them know what you think: http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
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Mr. Bush v. the Bill of Rights

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/18/opinion/18wed1.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

In the waning months of his tenure, President Bush and his allies are once again trying to scare Congress into expanding the president’s powers to spy on Americans without a court order.

This week, the White House and Democratic and Republican leaders on Capitol Hill hope to announce a “compromise” on a domestic spying bill. If they do, it will be presented as an indispensable tool for protecting the nation’s security that still safeguards our civil liberties. The White House will paint opponents as weak-kneed liberals who do not understand and cannot stand up to the threat of terrorism.

The bill is not a compromise. The final details are being worked out, but all indications are that many of its provisions are both unnecessary and a threat to the Bill of Rights. The White House and the Congressional Republicans who support the bill have two real aims. They want to undermine the power of the courts to review the legality of domestic spying programs. And they want to give a legal shield to the telecommunications companies that broke the law by helping Mr. Bush carry out his warrantless wiretapping operation.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, requires the government to get a warrant to intercept communications between anyone in this country and anyone outside it. The 1978 law created a special court that has approved all but a handful of the government’s many thousands of warrant requests.

Still, after Sept. 11, 2001, Mr. Bush bypassed the FISA court and authorized the interception of international calls and e-mail messages without a warrant. Then, when The Times disclosed the operation in late 2005, Mr. Bush claimed that FISA did not allow the United States to act quickly enough to stop terrorists. That was nonsense. FISA always gave the government the power to start listening and then get a warrant — a grace period that has been extended since Sept. 11.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:46 AM
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1. answer: yes
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:15 AM
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2. How long are we going to continue to support these people in
their treason?
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