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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:28 PM
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Congress May Endorse Acts of War Against Iran: Help!
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 05:30 PM by G_j
Can you ask your Representative to reject a dangerous naval blockade of Iran?

Dear Supporter of a Just Foreign Policy,

The US House of Representatives is considering a new resolution1 that would effectively demand a blockade against Iran - an act that would be widely seen as an act of war and would invite Iranian retaliation, possibly leading us into a shooting war.
Over the last three weeks, 77 House Democrats and 92 Republicans have agreed to cosponsor this resolution, but we think many do not realize its dangerous implications. Can you ask your Representative not to support this dangerous step toward war with Iran?
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/involved/hconres362.html

This resolution demands that President Bush "initiate an international effort" to impose a land, sea, and air blockade on Iran to prevent it from importing gasoline and to inspect all cargo entering or leaving Iran. Such a blockade imposed without United Nations authority (which the resolution does not call for) would be seen as an act of war. Congressional sources say the House could vote on the resolution, H.Con.Res. 362, as early as next week.
Congressional leaders seem to have assumed that there would be little opposition to this punitive measure against Iran, and they have put it on a fast track to passage. But due to the threat of war, many organizations and reasonable Members of Congress are working overtime to stop this bill.
Please join us by asking your Representative to oppose this dangerous path that could lead directly to war with Iran.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/involved/hconres362.html

Thanks for all you do for a just foreign policy and to keep us out of war with Iran,
Chelsea Mozen, Robert Naiman, Megan Iorio, and Patrick McElwee
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
Please contribute: We need your support to continue our work.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/donate.html
Reference:
1. The resolution is H. Con. Res. 362, introduced by Representative Gary Ackerman. The most allowing provision "demands that the President"
initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program.
You can find the full text of the resolution and list of co-sponsors here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.CON.RES.362:
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:35 PM
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1. Help How? Pelosi, et al. Don't Seem To Care What We Think nt
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:37 PM
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2. Call your own rep, get others to...
they care about their constituents votes...
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:38 PM
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3. if this comes to pass...
we need to all get our asses to Washington D.C. to blockade them. I'm serious- I will be going there and plopping my \self on the steps of Congress. This could be the start of a nuclear friggin' war.
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:51 PM
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4. I agree and fear we may just 'have to' take to the streets to give our elected representatives
a 'reality check'.

The people have been way over tolerate, imho.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:55 PM
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5. Am with you on that one, dana!
Have seriously fantasized about selling all I own, except for my van and a few living necessities, and taking to the road to DC, picking up followers to create a multi-million march/gathering.

No matter what the issues, we are ALL under the same umbrella of having been fucked over by our government.


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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:59 PM
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8. well, that's three of us.
hopefully more would join in.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:56 PM
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6. fuck them ...they have proven they dont give a shit what i think
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 05:57 PM by spanone
god or allah or someone help us
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 05:57 PM
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7. A waste of time. They'll do whatever they want to do. Unless,
you're willing to die to prevent it. In which case, count me in.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:00 PM
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9. Ah, huh.
yeppers, they care about what we think.

Harman has just said her constituents are telling her not to give immunity to telcos

still she is going to support it because it is better than what was before


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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:22 PM
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10. I take strong exception to the statement in the box.
Congress critters and Senators are educated, sophisticated people with a few exception, they have access to a staff of researchers and experts on just about any subject you can name. They know full well what possible outcome and the affect that could come from this legislation, the bigger questions are WHY do they feel this is necessary, who are the real beneficiaries and how do they personally benefit from it? It would seem that this action is unnecessary and a kind of saber rattling that could backfire big time.
"Over the last three weeks, 77 House Democrats and 92 Republicans have agreed to cosponsor this resolution, but we think many do not realize its dangerous implications."
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:22 AM
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11. true, ignorance is not an option nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:27 AM
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12. "The People" in this country no longer have ANY power.
we are completely inconsequential and utterly powerless in the grand scheme.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 09:43 AM
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13. Kick n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:45 PM
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14. Kick....!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:49 PM
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15. Today on WJ I heard the first sort of good news re Iran.
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 02:16 PM by sfexpat2000
Bush may not want to pursue it before he leaves office. And the best evidence is that Israel is trying to force him into it -- that indicates a lack of energy on his part. Last week Israel conducted an exercise simulating an attack on Iran -- perhaps a threat that they'd be willing to go alone.

In any case, maybe little Bush isn't as hot to nuke Iran as Cheney has been and maybe Cheney's influence is waning as Bush runs out the clock. :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:03 PM
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16. I guess we have to wonder....who is the stronger of the two....
if it comes down to that. :-( I'm not betting it's Bush...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:07 PM
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17. Cheney's " Break the law now, pay later" M.O. has run out of time.
I bet you a large pizza that there are few people in the administration willing to go along with him any more because they have a deadline coming right up.

It's not so much a matter of strength but a matter of securing agreement and cooperation at this moment, imo.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:16 PM
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18. Do you know what I get when I contact my rep's?
With all due respect to the OP.

I'm certain many here know well what you end up with.

First there is a drop down box to choose the topic , many issues are not there , Impeachment is one of them .

Then you type your concerns and wait . Then a week or a few weeks pass and you get an email with them telling you their positions on an issue that is not even related to your concern.

You also get following emails if they are not in the first email asking for money either for them or someone they support.

I have written and never gotten a response and calling leaves you every bit in the dark .

No , I feel the only way to reach these people is not by contact or voting but by going to the capital building in the millions and not leaving for as long as it takes.

Many talk about just taking just one day and doing nothing just to shut down the country but I just don't see this ever happening. People are concerned about themselves and many for good reason.

In reality it will take the younger people and those who are old and have no obligation to a job anymore. And then it takes the money to be able to go to DC or your own state capital.

We have done all of this and the support of the people has dropped down to close to none existant.

I am out of answers , it certainly will not be any new president who saves us , that I do know. And it will not be our rep's.

How much proof do we need to know this by now?
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jespwrs Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:41 PM
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19. I contact my rep a lot but the problem is
It doesn't matter what he thinks. Bush does what he wants anyway, and congress just takes it. The solution is impeachment, it's been impeachment, and it always will be impeachment. But then my rep seems to like being a doormat and doesn't support impeachment. The Israel lobby has fought to keep out provisions requiring and congressional approval for military actions against Iran. And the administration has was handed approval to basically do anything when the Revolutionary Guard was designated a terrorist organization.


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