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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 06:25 PM
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Gates calls for 'infinite H1Bs' and better schools
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 06:27 PM by HypnoToad
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-11153_22-6165166.html

No comment to the man who made the middle class and Microsoft champions say "No one lost a job by working for Microsoft". (now check their offshoring rates; to countries with the worst piracy rates... talk about rewarding pirates...)

I think we need to improve American workers before we reward pirates, and I think anything he says regarding the USA is in tokenism only. :(

Talent is there, he just doesn't want to pay for it and with the number of Americans dropping out of computer science and other classes, the blame comes from the top. Gates is pretty near the top, I should think... :shrug: Who's going to spend tends of thousands for no jobs in that field? You don't need to be a genius to know that.





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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 06:33 PM
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1. Duh ya think? K & R Why have schools for jobs that go to H1Bs anyway?
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 06:34 PM by Vincardog
WTF is wrong with these people?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 06:55 PM
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2. Bill Gates DOES NOT support AMERICANS
It's OUTRAGEOUS that this guy would be complaining that he cannot import more people to employ at Microsoft.

Hey Bill -- plow some of those BILLIONS into American SCHOOLS.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 09:01 PM
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9. Only One Billionaire Gives Testimony
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 09:04 PM by Robson
Why should Bill Gates plow it into Americans if he can plow it into friendly politicians that will buy into his plea to increase H1B visas to an unlimited amount? That outcome will enrich Gates' personal wealth, and at the same time reduce the standard of living for most Americans. But then who really gives a crap about middle class Americans?

Did you happen to see the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, chaired by veteran Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy, holding hearings under the title "strengthening American competitiveness for the 21st century" to limit testimony from only one America......a BILLIONAIRE named Gates?

http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article2338458.ece
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:00 PM
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3. My husband (Programmer) and I have
have a college age daughter who was going to major in IT. Having been off-shored THREE TIMES in ten years, Daddy sat darling daughter down and told her to open up her eyes.

We, and her, talked every one of her friends even considering going into IT to major in something else.

If, and until, corporations are made to PAY in taxes for outsourcing cheap overseas IT, Technology is DEAD in the USA. It has nothing to do with lack of brains in the USA. Actually, it is BECAUSE of brains kids aren't going into this field anymore. They can read the writing on the wall.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:05 PM
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4. Just wait until the baby boomers retire, it's claimed jobs will open up again...
Somehow I'm skeptical - but hopeful - that will be the case; it'll help America's situation no end...

But they set up the playing field then blame the workers for no longer playing the game. That analogy is atrocious, but they are the same ones who say "money is an incentive".

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:23 PM
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5. Back in my salad days (read: oblivious, lol), I used to admire Gates.
Now he is just utterly loathsome, and Jesus, is he CLUELESS!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:42 PM
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6. He's a shrewd businessman...
I have to wonder what he's clueless about... or what we're clueless about? Or both. Or neither.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:47 PM
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8. I suppose I meant he's clueless regarding the real-life economic
consequences of his H1B request. Either that, or he's just plain awful.
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Error Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:45 PM
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7. Its the dollars, Bill
quit fooling yourself. All H1B means is you pay 1/3 the going rate of a skilled American. Has nothing to do with there not being enough of us.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 09:09 PM
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10. Does he feel the same about lettuce pickers and bed-pan washers?
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled....IT geeks?"
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