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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:44 AM
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Always Remember the PNAC
So much has happened since the PNAC maneuvered us into war that many people have forgotten it or never realized it at the time. It's good to note the members and their power:

Elliott Abrams Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Democracy, Human Rights, and International Operations (2001–2002), Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and North African Affairs (2002–2005), Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy (2005-) (all within the National Security Council)
Richard Armitage Deputy Secretary of State (2001-2005)
John R. Bolton Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs (2001-2005), U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-2006)
Dick Cheney Vice President (2001-)
Eliot A. Cohen Member of the Defense Policy Advisory Board (2007-)<82>
Seth Cropsey Director of the International Broadcasting Bureau (12/2002-12/2004)
Paula Dobriansky Under-Secretary of State for Global Affairs (2001-2007)
Francis Fukuyama Member of the The President's Council on Bioethics (2001-2005)
Zalmay Khalilzad U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan (11/2003 - 6/2005), U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (6/2005 - 3/2007) U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2007-)
I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby Chief of Staff for the Vice President (2001-2005)
Richard Perle Chairman of the Board, Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee (2001-2003)
Peter W. Rodman Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security (2001-2007)
Donald Rumsfeld Secretary of Defense (2001-2006)
Randy Scheunemann Member of the U.S. Committee on NATO, Project on Transitional Democracies, International Republican Institute
Paul Wolfowitz Deputy Secretary of Defense (2001-2005)
Dov S. Zakheim Department of Defense Comptroller (2001-2004)
Robert B. Zoellick Office of the United States Trade Representative (2001-2005), Deputy Secretary of State (2005-2006)
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:6lraJqXI87UJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century+pnac+members&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:48 AM
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1. And don't forget that McCain was pres. of the New Citizenship Project (PNAC's founding org)
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080612_john_mccains_chilling_project_for_america/

McCain’s Ties to PNAC

John McCain’s connection to PNAC can be traced back to before its formation in 1997. In fact, he was president of the New Citizenship Project, founded by Kristol in 1994. This organization was parent to PNAC, and served as its chief fundraising organ.

McCain also worked cooperatively with PNAC and Wolfowitz in attempting to overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq. In 1998, he co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act—drafted by PNAC—which decreed “regime change” in Iraq to be U.S. policy, and which appropriated $97 million in U.S. military aid to the Iraqi National Congress (INC). The INC was a group of anti-Hussein Iraqi militants whose purpose was to instigate a national uprising against Hussein. It was led by Ahmed Chalabi, the Iraqi informant whose subsequent faulty intelligence—claims that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaida—was used to sell the Iraq war to the American public. In 2004, in response to accusations that he deliberately misled U.S. intelligence agencies, Chalabi glibly stated, “We are heroes in error.”

McCain also was co-chair (with Sen. Joseph Lieberman) of The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI). Established by PNAC in late 2002, this committee continued to finance Chalabi’s INC with millions of taxpayer dollars, until shortly after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, when it was discontinued. In 2004, McCain became a signatory of PNAC, ironically signing on to a PNAC letter condemning Russian President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy for its return to the “rhetoric of militarism and empire.”

McCain has accordingly been a foot soldier for PNAC from its inception, and, although this organization is no longer in existence, its ideology and its signatories (many of whom now serve as advisers to the McCain presidential campaign) are still very much active.

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:56 AM
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3. I Didn't Know That About McCain - This Sort Of Info Needs To Be More Widespread......
and PNAC as an organization conveniently doesn't exist as they need to have loose ends tidied up - but PNAC as an ideology does in the hearts and minds of all those individuals named above. It's simply gone underground.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:31 AM
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4. First, we need a media outlet that is willing to talk about this stuff
Until then, you're right, we need to spread the word. btw, the Philanthropy Roundtable (http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/) shares a phone number with PNAC. I posted the sourcewatch link (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project) in DU's opposition research thread (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=358&topic_id=2860&mesg_id=4996) a couple of months ago.

:hi:
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:53 AM
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2. You are right, we must never forget who brought us here K&R n/t
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:31 AM
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5. good idea
K&R
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:47 AM
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6. Francis Fukuyama has strongly distance himself from PNAC
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 09:49 AM by Jeroen
Francis Fukuyama was pretty naiv for someone who proclaimed the end of History, but still.
He is no longer a member of the PNAC maffia.

Jeroen

Edit: spelling Fukuyama
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:58 AM
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7. I wish more people knew about PNAC
A whole lot of seemingly inexplicable things and seemingly unconnected incidents suddenly made a great deal of sense to me once I learned about it.

To me, this is the A#1 reason McSame can NOT under any circumstances be allowed to become president.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:11 AM
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8. They also need to know about NCP and the Philanthropy Roundtable
I just posted this information on another thread. Note that McCain was the president (and no doubt because he was Kristol's pick) of the New Citizenship Project. The NCP spawned PNAC.

The following is excerpted from http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080612_john_mccains_chilling_project_for_america/

McCain’s Ties to PNAC

John McCain’s connection to PNAC can be traced back to before its formation in 1997. In fact, he was president of the New Citizenship Project, founded by Kristol in 1994. This organization was parent to PNAC, and served as its chief fundraising organ.

McCain also worked cooperatively with PNAC and Wolfowitz in attempting to overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq. In 1998, he co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act—drafted by PNAC—which decreed “regime change” in Iraq to be U.S. policy, and which appropriated $97 million in U.S. military aid to the Iraqi National Congress (INC). The INC was a group of anti-Hussein Iraqi militants whose purpose was to instigate a national uprising against Hussein. It was led by Ahmed Chalabi, the Iraqi informant whose subsequent faulty intelligence—claims that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaida—was used to sell the Iraq war to the American public. In 2004, in response to accusations that he deliberately misled U.S. intelligence agencies, Chalabi glibly stated, “We are heroes in error.”

McCain also was co-chair (with Sen. Joseph Lieberman) of The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI). Established by PNAC in late 2002, this committee continued to finance Chalabi’s INC with millions of taxpayer dollars, until shortly after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, when it was discontinued. In 2004, McCain became a signatory of PNAC, ironically signing on to a PNAC letter condemning Russian President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy for its return to the “rhetoric of militarism and empire.”

McCain has accordingly been a foot soldier for PNAC from its inception, and, although this organization is no longer in existence, its ideology and its signatories (many of whom now serve as advisers to the McCain presidential campaign) are still very much active.



fwiw, according to http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=New_Citizenship_Project">sourcewatch the Philanthropy Roundtable shares a phone number and office address with the New Citizenship Project. Here is the roundtable's website: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/content.asp?pl=440&contentid=443

According to their website, it looks like they are doing outreach to replenish their coffers.

The Philanthropy Roundtable seeks to build a critical mass of donors focused on making important advances toward victory over terrorism. Our national security meetings encourage innovative thinking through private initiatives like independent scholarship and research and metropolitan and regional disaster preparedness which exist outside of the government. Some of the previous Roundtable meetings have included Philanthropy and the War on Terrorism in New York City and Philanthropy’s Role in Defending America in Colorado Springs. Through donor interaction in this area, we desire to improve the overall quality of national security philanthropy.

The September 11 attacks caused the philanthropic community to ask how donors can best serve their country by helping America organize against the increased threat of terrorism. Questions include:

* What is the appropriate role of the private sector in fighting terrorism?

* How can philanthropists get involved and make a substantive difference?

* How can donors ensure that their grantmaking effectively serves national security while also conforming to the missions of their foundations and trusts?

The Philanthropy Roundtable has established the National Security Breakthrough Group (NSB) to help the donor community find answers to these and similar questions. The NSB Group, like the Roundtable as a whole, supports the principle that voluntary private action can make a significant difference in the security and welfare of the American people.

http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/content.asp?pl=440&contentid=443


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:15 AM
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9. Welcome to DU! We should ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS remember these names.
ALWAYS.

ALWAYS.

These people should be kept track of. Hounded for the rest of their days. No peace. No justice? No peace. They have OCEANS of blood on their hands. All in the name of power and imperialism and greed.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:18 AM
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10. amen
Never Forget.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:41 AM
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11. Also.... A Clean Break
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:48 AM
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12. The PNAC is the context.
It's as though people aren't able to put the dots together. For us, it's a complete picture of dots. Blaring in it's obviousness.

I don't see more than a few people in Congress who have, or can, put this into context. It's like they're looking for one crime they can really get behind. It couldn't be clearer.

Argh. Why are so manyh people so stupid. On purpose.
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The Bakery Wagon Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:54 AM
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13. The website may be gone but
fortunately the wayback machine has the entire site.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://newamericancentury.org

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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 11:21 AM
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14. Are these the orchestrators of 9/11 >,,, You think???
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