One of the most damning bits of information that I heard that disproves Ivins as the guilty one is

[Tim4319]

when they conducted their investigation, they said they linked the strains of Anthrax back to the vials that Dr. Ivins had. But, the strains that, supposedly, Dr. Ivins had was in liquid form. The strains that were sent in the mail was in powder form. The expert said that he would have to have a highly sophisticated machine to transform liquid Anthrax into powder. A machine Dr. Ivins did not own.

Has anyone else heard that?

I'm sorry, I do not have a link. I heard it on MSNBC last night.

[TwilightGardener]

1. Supposedly Ivins had access to a lyophilizer, which dries the spores.

[EFerrari]

5. But on KO, Posner says the experts he talked to said that lyophilizer

couldn't produce the type of anthrax used in the attacks.

[TwilightGardener]

6. OK, I'll buy that. I only heard that he was one of a very few who had access

to it and knew how to use it--but I'm suspicious of every aspect of the FBI case.

[robinlynne]

10. 40 people according to PBS, not so very few.

[EFerrari]

13. This other scientist that Greenwald quotes says that people who

work on vaccines need that equipment.

It seems to me another case of the FBI pointing to something normal and making it sound suspicious.

[Qutzupalotl]

7. What was Posner's source for that assertion?

[EFerrari]

11. He said he'd talked to eight microbiologists.

And what he says comports with what Nass has been saying -- she was a colleague of Ivins -- as well as a couple of other scientists who work at Detrick but not in Ivins' lab.

[Tim4319]

17. Oh yeah, the military grade Anthrax, right?

[EFerrari]

18. Right. n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. On KO last night -- investigative reporter Posner spoke with 6 experts in the field

who insisted the kind of lyophilizer Ivins had access to could NOT produce the quality of anthrax that was sent out.

The whole lyophilizer story is another FBI bullshit point.

[EFerrari]

16. Did he say six? I thought it was eight. The whole FBI case

is built that way, though. And as soon as you think about it for two minutes, the buleria is pretty obvious.

[bicentennial_baby]

20. It was 6, American and Russian

The experts.

[EFerrari]

22. Thank you.

[rurallib]

2. It was on KO last night.

I feel so sorry for Mr. Ivins. He was set up and murdered. I am sure he never saw it coming. I hope his family is preparing a huge, huge lawsuit.

[Tim4319]

3. Excuse my ignorance, but did they ever say how he committed suicide?

[notadmblnd]

4. Tylenol with codene

on edit: One of my sisters tried killing herself with pills. She said she thought she would just go to sleep. However, she said it was the most painful thing she had ever done.

[rurallib]

9. And no autopsy was done. I find that very, very odd.

A few years back a writer who had connected the CIA to drug trafficing was found dead around San Francisco with two bullet holes in the back of his head. The death was ruled a suicide. Can't remember his name Gary something I think. This was also during Junior's term.

[Tim4319]

14. Can't the family request an autopsy?

[rurallib]

26. did he have a family?

I think that was a plus in blaming him.

[Sal Minella]

21. San Jose Mercury News? Yes, Gary something.

Found it -- Gary Webb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. Any "evidence" they have would be picked apart at a trial. At this point

they can say whatever they want.

[TwilightGardener]

15. Right--conveniently, their evidence will never be challenged. Their story

is THE official version, the end.

[newfie11]

19. WOW the US is becoming more and more like the old Russia

SCARY!

[Selatius]

23. People will only recall the government's story. Only the jury will really see the evidence, if any.

The fact that the people will only remember the government's story is enough to essentially erase history.

[tjwash]

24. Wasn't one of the biggest rove invasion talking points back in 2003, that it came from Iraq?

just sayin'...

[LSK]

25. there is video of McCain telling Letterman that it may have come from Iraq

That was in 2001.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAUj4s6sT0

[Supersedeas]

27. their whole case relies heavily on this ONE connection