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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:12 PM
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CNN Showing Damaging Quotes From Biden Already
Let The Games Begin!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:14 PM
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Well, that didn't take long
with all of the drivel on the Sunday shows over the years, who knows what sort of crap is out there....
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:14 PM
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1. Clarify, please. No TV. n/t
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remember2000forever Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:24 PM
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12. Long Ago Video Of Him Campaigning Talking About How "Experience" Is Important!
A Couple Of Quips From The Debates Against Obama. Talking About How Long He Has Been On The Political Scene And Since He Is So Verbose, That There Are Lots Of Tape To Preview.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:26 PM
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17. Thx.
They're jumping the gun just a bit, eh? Downright stupid when he isn't the pick; I don't think he is.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:56 AM
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35. so now that biden is on the ticket
the Obama-Biden campaign has experience - and ability and competency
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:15 PM
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2. I saw that, but as of today, I don't see it as damaging. They said
in the clip that a Prez needs to be experienced in foreign relations. Isn't that exactly what Biden would bring to the ticket?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:15 PM
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3. Yep - get used to it if Biden is the pick.
:eyes:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:16 PM
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4. As they should, Biden is not good veep material for Obama.
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 03:17 PM by aikoaiko
and maybe not good for anyone else.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:40 AM
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31. Well, I'll trust Barack on this one over you.
C'ya!
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:51 AM
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34. Well, know we know "he's the guy" so I'll be voting him as a VP because

he's better than anyone McCain will choose (and better than McCain, too).

;)

Still I had hoped for someone less conventional and more in keeping with the theme of Change and Hope.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:56 AM
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36. Biden is a very positive person, I think he represents
Hope and I think he is sick of the way Washington is being run, so look for change.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:16 PM
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5. There will be many damaging quotes if Biden is the VP.
Part of why I don't want him.
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flor-de-jasmim Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:18 PM
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6. They'll do it with anyone -
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:24 PM
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14. But Biden just makes it generally too easy
I respect him and he's a great asset to the party, but he does nothing for the ticket electorally. He's also got a list of quotes that will make all of our heads spin if he's the nominee. The GOP can neutralize him very quickly and put him on the defensive, which negates the attack-dog status that we need from a VP pick
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:29 PM
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18. Exactly. Picking Biden is like giving the GOP a loaded gun.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:32 PM
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20. It also flies in the face of the "Change" mantra
We need an outside the beltway type - someone with leadership and executive experience (read: A Governor). If McCain picks Romney, he will have that position filled and ready to take it up against us.

I'll defer to Obama's judgment because I like him so much, but I think its a mistake to put any establishment as the VP.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:39 PM
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22. Obama is the "Change" component.
That doesn't mean he can't pick anyone with experience to be on his ticket. I think Hilary would have been too much of the same, as her husband was in the WH for 8 years. That would be yet another member of one of the 2 families that have held the WH for the past 20 years going back. But Biden? I don't think so.

Though he's ben a Senator for several terms, I think he has much of the same "maverick" appeal that McCain TRIES to lay claim to. He speaks his mind when not always the "acceptable" line, but he doesn't come out sounding like a maniiac like McCain does.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:42 PM
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24. I hope you are right
Again, I will support Obama regardless. I just have some difference in philosophy when it comes to picking the VP. For one, I want executive leadership experience, which McCain will have if he picks Romney. I also want someone who hasn't been jaded by the Washington system. I also would love to have someone who can be prepped to run for President in 8 years.

But I see what you are saying and I hope it turns out to be true.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:35 PM
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21. If I'm not mistaken, any "quotes" they have on Biden deal with actual issues.
That in and of itself is good for the Dems. They aren't going to dredge up anything to weird or that we don't already know. He's a known quantity.

Bring in some unknown, and they can, and will, cast him with whatever brush they choose. They'll find whatever association they can to paint him as something questionable. And the MSM echo chamber will repeat it ad nauseum.

Biden has been thoroughly "vetted" by decades of public service and spotlight as a candidate. What contentious quotes they may dig up on him will:

A) Force the media to concentrate on the actual issues he has commented on
and
B) Show that HE is the true "maverick", "shoot-from-the-hip" kind of regular guy McCain pretend to be.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:40 PM
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23. I can see your point, but Biden also has some shady ties
Namely in the Banking and Credit industry. Do we really want McCain and his ilk running around throwing advertisements up about how Joe Biden and his backers are the ones foreclosing on homes and driving interest rates up? I know it's not true (at least not in the sense that Biden controls it) but you and I both know that the truth doesn't matter when it comes to the media.

Remember - we are pitching to the lowest common denominator in the average American voter. They latch onto short soundbites and crafty marketing that relates to them on a basic level.

I'm not sure there's a perfect fit with all the factors we have at play this year.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:42 AM
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33. Are you for real?
DO you get out? Did you watch the debates?

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:31 PM
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19. that they will...
the only way to get a veep is pure is to select an embryo..but even then you have the family history.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:41 AM
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32. You are such a neophyte to politics if you think this doesn't
happen ALL THE TIME. :eyes:
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:18 PM
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7. You mean he plagiarized something for a college paper decades ago?
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 03:18 PM by Brotherjohn
Yeah, let's bring up plagiarism. McCain has plagiarized Solzhenitsyn and Wikipedia.

And that was just this MONTH!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:18 PM
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8. joe's got decades they will be drawing on if he's the guy
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:22 PM
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11. So does McCain.
Yet they wont talk about his past, of course not, he was a POW we are not allowed to question his judgment or service. This country needs to wake up or we will have another four years of poverty and sadness.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:13 PM
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28. The difference is that the Democrats are always too reticent and polite to use it
We're "above" that.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:31 AM
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29. Yeah I get that but thats why weve lost the last two.
The dems have the rational intelligent vote, but the dumbass faux news viewer who has no grasp of humility or reality vote based on gross attack ads. Its the biggest problem with our electoral process. Stupid people should not be allowed to vote, Dems would win 100% of the time.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:20 PM
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9. Biden ran an ad back in the late 80s talking about how necessary experience is
Looked like they were grasping at straws to me having to go back 20 years.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:20 PM
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10. Saw that segment ..... and let me say this ........
if that's all they got on Biden ..... then bring it on .... was quite weak. Actually very weak. :rofl:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:51 PM
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26. ironically, that quote may strengthen our hand
Biden brings considerable experience to the WH. So WTF?
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 04:03 PM
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27. Totally agree with you ....
Obamas judgment and Bidens experience ..... what more would we need to refute this weak argument the Repubs would put out. Peace
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:24 PM
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13. CNN is going crazy because they don't know
All that money putting reporters at the potential VP residences and Obama's plane in Chicago, and so far they have Bupkis
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:25 PM
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15. Let me make this simple
FUCK CNN!
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:25 PM
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16. If that's the best they got, we're golden
that statement about Obama being clean, that won't affect a single vote and a statement from this campaign and ad from 1988 saying that the presidency is not the place for on the job training.

Biden, should it be him, just has to say that he stands by those statements and is confident that Obama doesn't need on the job training because he's shown that he has a firm grasp on all the issues, is willing to make tough calls, and can more than hold his own with the rest of the world's leaders.



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carpe diem Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-08 03:47 PM
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25. Obama is the change...
Edited on Fri Aug-22-08 03:48 PM by jg82567
Biden is the experience, bases covered...and if they want to play the quote game, McCain has 30 years worth of quotes taking multiple sides of every issue out there...
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-08 10:37 AM
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30. There showing where Biden said Obama wasnt quite ready back in the first debate.
Then showed a clip of Biden saying he would like to run against or with McCain. Obamas person on then said that the first was an old clip and the McCain thing was referring to the McCain of 2000. This is something I think that needs to be pounced on; how McCain eight years ago had good ideas made a path of his own, yet as cenility has set in as his 70s began he has chosen to support the same old easy party lines. What a flip flopper.
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