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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:17 AM
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Aha, I was right. Dean did indeed outraise McAuliffe.
He just never gets credit for it, and the inside the beltway consultants will never admit it. He did outraise McAuliffe by a considerable amount, he just used the money to rebuild the state parties instead of putting it in the bank or doing as Terry NcAuliffe did.....building tribute walls out of glass.

There were awkward moments during Dean's first months in Washington, early in 2005, when he found himself working among the party leaders he had repeatedly maligned. In his first official visit to the newly renovated D.N.C. building, Dean was greeted in the lobby by his predecessor, Terry McAuliffe, a close friend of the Clintons and probably the most gifted fund-raiser in the party's history, whom Dean's supporters had long pilloried as the personification of a party run by hacks and obsessed with corporate money. McAuliffe, a man of maddeningly good cheer, pointed to the new wall-size glass building dedication in the lobby, which featured McAuliffe's name at the very top, followed by a list of contributors. ''Now, Howard,'' he said, ''don't you go chiseling that down.''

The Inside Agitator


Well, Howard Dean DID outraise that "most-gifted" fundraiser, and never a word of credit for doing it.

The issue now is money -- not so much Dean's ability to raise it but his propensity to spend it. From Jan. 1, 2001, when Terence R. McAuliffe took over the committee, through March 31, 2004, the DNC raised approximately $127 million in funds that could be spent directly on campaign activities. Between Jan. 1, 2005, and March 2008, the DNC raised $190 million, considerably more.

But the DNC had $27.5 million in the bank at this time four years ago, as opposed to $4.4 million now. Dean aides say that money was well spent, creating organizations in all 50 states upon which Obama has been able to piggyback his campaign, reaching deep into an untapped electorate and developing the DNC's most complete national voter database ever. The investment will pay dividends not just in November but for years to come, they say.

Dean's 50-State Strategy Continues to Generate Debate


Wow, 190 million and 127 million. Could the strategists and consultants possibly be lying when they say Dean was not a good fundraiser? I mean, we hear that all the time.

As to where the money went, especially in the beginning....they did not go to building Terry McAuliffe's glass wall of tribute higher.

The money went to hungry and starved state parties that had long been neglected.

Dean had to get 12 state parties out of bankruptcy, pay unpaid debt, get padlocks off doors.

I had discovered how pathetic many of our state parties actually were. Many were literally bankrupt, the office supplies and machines (typewriters) had been taken for unpaid debt, and padlocks were on the door. The State Committees that had the franchise were held in one or another lawyer's file cabinet, (In Georgia it had been Bert Lance's for about 20 years), and the reason for this condition was frankly racism. The Southern States would not allow the release of the franchise to a newly elected Central Committee or Board, because it would be Black. They could do this because the parties were in bankruptcy, and whatever lawyer had the letterhead in his files was also the court appointed trustee.

....."When Dean took over the DNC -- this was the condition of about twelve of our State Parties. He actually had to find lawyers to go into court and get the parties out of this kind of "Trusteeship" before he could even begin to reorganize. In fact, one of the reasons some of the Field Organizers Dean appointed are on the staff of the DNC rather than state parties is because it avoids dealing with old trustees and old court judgments."


A little truthtelling from the consultants and talking heads would go a long way. You don't rebuild parties that were left to rot without money.

There will be another election for another chair in January or early February. I hope there is some inclination to set the record straight before then.

Thanks for bringing the party back to life, Howard Dean. You may never get credit from the usual suspects, but some of us will continue to get the truth out there.





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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:19 AM
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1. Excellent. Thanks. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:25 AM
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2. Most welcome, and thanks for the Denver reports.
:hi:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:26 AM
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3. Go Dean!
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:26 AM by beac
McAuliffe gets more and more irrelevant by the minute. I long for the day when NO ONE will give him air time.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 05:26 PM
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20. Agreed.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:30 AM
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4. That man has not stopped and he just does not get the credit he deserves...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:15 AM
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15. You are right. He will probably never get credit.
I have heard DNC spokespersons say he has outraised others without soft money, then on TV I hear someone say he is a poor fundraiser. Angers me.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:30 AM
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5. I love you to death for finding the wonderful facts that you do!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:55 AM
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11. Well, the true facts are often hidden in the middle of articles...
where they really hope no one will pick up on them. I knew Dean had outraised him by quite a bit, even before the Clinton donors started hurting him....but it is very hard to find the cold facts on it. I used to see the totals at CQ Politics or such places, but it is hard to get the comparisons between the two chairs.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:36 AM
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6. One more thing.....the large Hillary donors and Florida Dems hurt fundraising
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:37 AM
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7. It just never stops.....I worry for Dean..as well as our country.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:42 AM
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10. I can hardly bear to watch cable news anymore.
They have people on who just plain lie.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:42 AM
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9. Howard Dean is truely one of the good guys. He's about as close to a political
hero as it gets.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:23 AM
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12. I totally agree.
:hi:
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 09:00 PM
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27. Well said and so true. He makes the rest look like the self-obsessed hacks that they are.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 04:11 PM
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38. He has been goal oriented....
and kept to his course.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:41 AM
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8. Don Fowler recently called Dean a poor fundraiser.
He has had a pout on with Dean about Florida and the party rules, as I believe he supported Clinton.

Here is what he said.

Former DNC Chairman Donald Fowler of South Carolina, while saying Dean was “dead right on the 50 state strategy,” stops short of calling himself a Dean partisan. Fowler said that fundraising “was a weakness clearly” for Dean, that he wishes Dean trained party workers better and was more aggressive in
providing an alternative to Republican talking points. “In some respects I’m not as great an admirer of what Gov. Dean has done,” he said.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002940498


Well, Don Fowler, you admired him until he enforced the rules. Fowler should know better.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:37 AM
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13. BTW, didn't the soft money end about that time?
And Dean did that without the soft money? Not sure of my facts on that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:54 AM
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40. Am I right about the soft money?
I think so.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:50 AM
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14. I refused to send any money to the DNC--until Howard Dean started to run it...
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 02:51 AM by Hekate
Obviously I'm a small donor, but I know there were a lot of DUers like me who decided to donate based on Dean's presence. We trust him to do the right thing with our money -- like build local organizations and carry out a 50-state strategy.

Hekate


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:55 PM
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34. Exactly.
:hi:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:41 AM
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16. madfloridian, look at RNC vs DNC fundraising for the last fiscal quarter
first time in years the DNC is matching the RNC in fund raising, if the DNC can keep that up Dean will easily outraise the RNC by election day, with Obama outraising McCain, well we can see where that leads us.

Good on you madfloridian for carrying the torch, and shedding some light into corners that have lived in the shadows for too long.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:52 AM
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17. Dean never defends himself.....and they just keep lying.
It infuriates me so much.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:53 AM
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18. He did this in spite of the big money donors withholding funds and getting refunds.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:34 PM
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19. Kick for truth.
:kick:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 05:50 PM
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21. K&R
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:19 PM
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22. Thanks....
it needs the light of day. The insiders have allowed us to think Dean was a failed fundraiser. I have followed by months, and many times he outraised the DCCC and DSCC...but I could never find a reference about the totals from 2004.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:23 PM
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23. K&R
Another good post!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:29 PM
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24. Dean has been an asset all around.
K and R. :hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 01:02 PM
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30. I keep thinking how odd that we were led to think the opposite...
that he had done such a poor job of fundraising. Amazing, ain't it.

:hi:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:30 PM
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25. mcauliffe has been all over the teevees today....egomaniac of great magnitude
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-08 12:50 PM
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32. That's a good description.
:hi:
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 07:37 PM
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26. K & R
i love some howard. once month the dnc gets a little and obama gets a little. i always send an email to dr dean to let hom know i appreciate everything he has done and continues to do.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 11:41 AM
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28. That's a nice thing to do.
To just send an email of appreciation. :hi:
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chicagoexpat Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 01:00 PM
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29. great find on funds
Great find/comparison.

McAuliffe wanted to spend all the rest of the $$ on building up the party in Puerto Rico. Cause of the rum & fancy shirts.

Paul Begala, one of the other Clinton Klan, on Dean's strategy from 2006: "He has raised $74 million and spent $64 million. He says it's a long-term strategy. But what he has spent it on, apparently, is just hiring a bunch of staff people to wander around Utah and Mississippi and pick their nose. That's not how you build a party."

&, of course, we all know what happened in that special election in Mississippi this summer. While we can't necessarily credit the Dean organizers entirely for this victory, we can definitely say Begala and the Clinton Klan had absolutely nothing to do with it.

From "The Clinton Party becomes the Democratic Party"



& James Carville, that weird looking Clinton Klan alien, is wearing PUMA's:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/27/carville-wears-pumas-off_n_121782.html
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 03:46 PM
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31. I find it amazing how they managed to keep this such a secret.
I have followed the monthly fundraising pretty closely, and I knew he was doing well. But it has been hard to find anything to compare the two lately.

Dean absolutely beat Terry at the fundraising, and these figures are from March, even before the big donors tried to crash his fundraising for following the rules on MI and FL

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1946

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:59 AM
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33. "They" also kept saying convention would not work....well guess what?
It sure did work.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:01 PM
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35. Ferraro owes Howard Dean an apology for insulting on Fox.
She also owes Obama an apology. And someone needs to sit on her and shut her up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6815916&mesg_id=6815916
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:09 PM
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36. Dean rocks!!! n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 10:16 PM
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37. Kicking this because I saw someone here today...
give the impression that McAuliffe was a better fundraiser. This needs more attention.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PM
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39. Kick to remind us how the media misleads.
.
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