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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:19 PM
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Cleland to Cheney: Where the Hell Were You in the Vietnam War?
Speaking before the 2007 AIPAC Policy Conference earlier today, Vice President Cheney trotted out the same old talking point about how any sort of timetable will just cause the "enemy" to "wait us out." When asked for his response to this, former Senator (and war hero) Max Cleland had some tough words for the draft-dodging and warmongering Veep.

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"Where the hell were you in the Vietnam War? If you had gone to Vietnam like the rest of us, maybe you would have learned something about war. You can't keep troops on the ground forever. You gotta have a mission. You gotta have a purpose."

You can't keep sending 'em back and back and back with no mission and no purpose. As a matter of fact, the real enemy is Al Qaeda, it's Al Qaeda stupid, it's not in Iraq.

Update: John Amato: Nancy Pelosi responds:

It is a disservice to our military personnel for President Bush and Vice President Cheney to continue to advocate for an open-ended commitment in Iraq, while brushing aside the advice of military leaders and the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, all of whom argue that the war in Iraq cannot be resolved militarily but only through diplomatic, economic and political means. As the Vice President’s remarks today prove again, the Administration’s answer to continuing violence in Iraq is more troops and more treasure from the American people…read on…Raw story has more….
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:22 PM
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1. I heard him on Wolfe's show. I admire Max a lot, and I only wish
he was healthy enough to run against the AH Chambliss! Somebody should have said that to Cheney a long damn time ago!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-12-07 10:28 PM
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2. Remember when she dissed Max?
Edited on Mon Mar-12-07 10:40 PM by senseandsensibility
Something about him injuring himself, not deserving his medals, yada , yads, same old hate filled gargage. She got a COMPLETELY free pass on it, too.:grr: Max is a hero, and I wish the Dems would use him more.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 01:00 AM
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3. I met Max when he was campaigning with Barack in 2004.
Nice guy and a ball of fire when it comes to speaking out about bush and cheney. He was campaigning for Barack and then Barack and he campaigned for Kerry, because Kerry didn't come to Illinois. Anyway, I had a picture of him with one of Barack's campaign managers, and I then emailed it to the CM, but my daughter then erased it because she didn't think I would want it. Max even flirted a little with me and another lady there. If he is married, forget I said anything about this. I was probably wrong. ;-)
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 07:05 AM
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4. Great story!
Too bad your daughter erased the pic!
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:23 AM
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6. Yes, she kept the one of me and Barack
but because this was one of the two men, and because I had taken it for the CM, she just thought I did not want it. I understand why she did it, I just wish she hadn't. ;-)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:23 AM
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5. Cleland and Clark were out there almost every day as spokespeople countering
the swifts. The corpmedia gave more weight to the lies and the swifts than they did to men like Cleland and Clark - they barely reported their efforts.

Cleland and Clark have more integrity in their fingernails than 200 swifts could find between all of them.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 08:28 AM
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7.  what attention they gave the two men
was to question their sanity. The elections of 2004 was one controlled by the media, or at least it attempted to control it. I think the popularity of the internet has thrown a wrench in the overall plan of the media corporations plan of ruling the world, and that is why I look for them to attack it more viciously before 2008. Just my paranoid opinion.
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