Who's ready for a cancelled election, martial law and civil war?

[lonestarnot]

This is the dry run.

[malaise]

1. I'm not sure - it could also be checkmate for the Dems

if they play their cards right.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4081005&mesg_id=4081005

[lonestarnot]

7. K & R'd it!

[babylonsister]

2. That terror stuff comes from the rethugs, not us. Yes, they're trying

to frighten; it won't work this time.

:hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Hate to slightly disagree with you

been through these crisis before in the flesh... this is following a well trodden play book

As is already got extra CANNED goods and made sure gas tanks are full

You think I am exaggerating? I wish I was

[malaise]

9. My worry is that these goons are not behaving like they're

planning to hand over power via an election. That's very troubling to me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. There you go.... when I was a kid in Mexico... I remember the

panicked look in my parent's face, first with the Echeverria crisis... then Lopes Portillo and so it goes

I remember the old things... FILL gas tanks, get canned goods... and be ready to live off them for a while

It never came to the canned goods... but just in case... got canned goods... Hey, if they don't get used this way, they'll get used anyway... but this does not strike me as a good thing

Of course my hubby thinks my tinfoil is going off a little too much... but like most Muricans has never lived through these kinds of shocking events in the flesh... now for people who went through the depression this must be VERY scary

[TBF]

45. We live like that every hurricane season...

this time we actually used some of the cases of bottled water.

[comrade snarky]

50. Same here in earthquake country

You need to keep at least a weeks food and water or a filtration system.

You can see your disaster coming from a long way off but having been through both I'll take the earthquakes. They are quick!

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. True, in a way I just renewed my quake stash

but it is not the same

Somehow it is different..... when you know the decisions taken by a few people can royally screw you

Today I was talking to my mom... funny, she does not remember asking people if they filled gas tank or getting canned goods

I do...she does not not

[comrade snarky]

55. Well if the crash is that bad

I guess it's full Mad Max.

Fighting for food and gas on the open roads of Australia and quietly blaming it on the Jews. I can put together quite the football pad and feather outfit. There's that to look forward to I guess.

Sorry, if I don't keep laughing one day I'll wake up screaming. :evilgrin:

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. This morning my gallows humor went up there

it was as bad as after coming back to the station from a bad MCI where I was the triage officer and got to play you live, nope you die.

These days those "jokes" are coming back, with a vengeance

[lonestarnot]

22. Beans beans the musical fruit and so on and so forth.

Adding it to my list tonight! :hug:

[babylonsister]

14. Martial law? Civil war (recently)? Cancelled election?

You've been through this? I think people should chill out and not think the worst. If they try any of that, yea, maybe a civil war, but otherwise? I just bet the dim one can't wait to make himself scarce.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. You have no clue how close it came to Martial Law during the Echeverria crisis

and yes, civil war... it is called the war on drugs...

Or interviewing way too many refugees from central america

Closing societies follow a set pattern... people can explain it to you all we can... won't make sense for some until it actually happens

For the moment have done already what you do in these cases, get ready as best as you can

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. I think President Clinton said that they need us to be divided. And that is true.

[TomInTib]

3. I'm ready for the first two.

But Chickenshit Nation ain't gonna fight.

But if a fight starts, I'm in for that, too.

[SpookyCat]

63. Me too TomInTib, me and C.S.

We will not be good Germans, if it comes to that.



OT: when I first wrote my response to you, I referred to you as Tom, then decided that might be too familiar, so I thought I would just use the acronym of your name...then because I'm in many ways 5 years old, I laughed and laughed...and rewrote it... :hi:

[Turbineguy]

4. Well, since it's patriotic

to hate other Americans, I guess shooting them can't be far behind.

[Fovea]

5. The fascist shift

there will be an election, it will be postponed indefinitely.

And then, over the holidays, civil war will begin, and within a year we will be the united states of Beirut.

[lonestarnot]

25. War on Christmas already?

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. If they are gonna do it... am afraid that is tongight

for the moment fill tanks, get canned goods... been there, done that

[and-justice-for-all]

10. What would be the justification for that? nt

[lonestarnot]

12. Ugh, they know they can't win.

:shrug: Not even on a cheat this time.

[and-justice-for-all]

15. Is this another false flag event?

[bdamomma]

27. the repig party is revolting itself, most repigs are not for this

bailout. alot of crap is going on, and all they want is the money. NO BAILOUT FOR WALL STREET.

and McCain can't walk and chew gum at the same time, cancelling a debate what kind of BS is that.

oh, they will bail out Wall street but they hold back funding for the American people and do not give anything to our soldiers. what total BS

[lonestarnot]

33. I haven't heard anything re discussion of bailout today. I need an update.

I'll look around here for one.

[readmoreoften]

11. I'm expecting something, that's for sure.

[lonestarnot]

13. LOL.

Maybe just a chicken dinner?

[lurky]

35. Funny you should say that.

These were popular during the Great Depression. People couldn't afford a real chicken dinner, so they would buy a 1-cent candy bar because it gave them the fantasy of real food. Scary stuff, huh?

[lonestarnot]

39. Yes but I love those fucking things! Chicken legs I think they're called.

Long skinny sticks with coconut or something stuck on them right?

[lonestarnot]

40. Oh and just so we don't get too weak to fight, stock up on rice and beans.

:>)

[lurky]

42. You know, I've actually been thinking about it...

Couldn't hurt, right? :shrug:

[cliffordu]

52. Yep, already did. you might want to get a little corn meal and flour and

baking powder for the cornbread, too....milk might be a problem unless you live in or near the country.


If the worst case scenario comes down, a lot of people will die in place.

[bluesmail]

16. Are we going to find out tonight after * speaks to our beloved

America? I'm going to pick a few more items up at the CO-OP. I'm prepared for winter, but this has the opportunity to be way worse.:scared: Oct 1 is soon upon us. Crap

[Naturyl]

18. I'm worried...

I try to limit my paranoia and second-guess myself - but I admit it ain't cutting it recently. Why is an Army brigade coming to the US on October 1st? I don't like how it smells - the whole thing stinks.

[lonestarnot]

24. Stinks to high heaven.

May only be something dead though, but I'm still wondering. Waiting and watching.

[comrade snarky]

51. I worry about it as well

But in my worst tinfoil hat moments I try to reassure myself with the thought that this administration is so stupid, so unable to plan effectively that I don't think they could handle the job without screwing it up. They just don't have the ability to declare a fascist takeover without accidentally emailing the whole plan to reporters.

Then again an Army Times article about stationing an active duty army brigade in the US could be that "email". Crap, now I'm worried again...

[Naturyl]

19. I'm worried...

I try to limit my paranoia and second-guess myself - but I admit it ain't cutting it recently. Why is an Army brigade coming to the US on October 1st? I don't like how it smells - the whole thing stinks.

[kenny blankenship]

21. mmm. My guess is that Bush can't wait to stop bein' tha Preznit

If the SHTF on Wall St. though, martial law (under a nicer name, such as the Permanent Campaign to Beautify the Homeland) is a distinct possibility.

[lonestarnot]

26. Well the installed bushitler is not in charge doncha know.

[Karenina]

28. Nor will female clone be...

[lonestarnot]

36. zactly!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

44. Bush's only exertions as President have been attending photo-ops and campaigning

and having a 6 page PDB reduced to one page and read to him by a flunky over his morning cereal. If through some great misfortune our democracy were suspended, Bush wouldn't have to do anything all day except play with toy soldiers in his sand box, ride his bike, and enjoy his peanut butter sandwich before his afternoon nap on "pillie".

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. More likely. Depression, civil disorder, followed by a "strong" leader.

There was a lot of that going around in the '30s.

[NeedleCast]

30. I'm Curious

When none of these things happen, will you come here and admit you were wrong?

[Dj13Francis]

31. God I hope so.

I would be overjoyed to be wrong about this. That's unlikely though. I predicted that we'd have an economic meltdown around this time (of the retirement of the baby boomers) in my book I wrote in 1996. Hyperinflation is coming. Chaos and martial law are coming. Get prepared. And if I'm wrong, nobody will be happier than me.

[lonestarnot]

32. Ditto.

[Prophet 451]

34. Happily

I'm not at the certainty stage yet, just at "enough concurrent events to make me nervous" but if it all goes down according to schedule, I'll be overjoyed to be (virtually) pelted with rotten eggs.

[lonestarnot]

38. I will not sleep deeply tonight. :)

[bdamomma]

43. me either.

again if these SOB's were in another country they would have been long gone.

[lonestarnot]

48. And Rick Davis can he still keep collecting his 15 K per month w/o discussion?

[SpookyCat]

64. You betcha!

Going to have an Election party at my apartment, and I am planning on it being a celebration, and I will be happy to post that I was wrong. I have no desire to be right on this one.

While I don't think it's helpful to froth at the mouth, I also think it's foolish not to consider what is going on and what it could lead to. Eyes wide open.

[RagAss]

37. Just don't cancel football on Sundays...

[MissDeeds]

41. I think we need to be prepared for anything

These creeps have spent the last eight years, no, actually longer than that, planning for a power grab so they could construct their new world order. They have seized two elections by nefarious means, and they are not going to go down quietly. They will do whatever it takes to "win" this election. The stakes have never been higher. Imagine what four more year of Republican domination would mean...:scared:

[tuckessee]

46. Oh, they'll have the elections.

There's a slim chance they may be delayed but they'll have them.

Americans want & need their "elections"

"Elections" are an important part of distracting and pacifying the American public.

If the elections are cancelled Americans will feel cheated out of their precious democracy. If elections are held, even if they're a sham, people will be happy.

Just look at how giddy people were to choose between two Skull & Bonesmen back in 2004.

[Cleita]

47. I've been ready for it since the conventions ended.

I'm hoping that their base isn't going to be lulled into this again. I see Bush was regurgitating the same old fear meme in his address tonight. I hope this time the gullible don't fall for it.

[lonestarnot]

49. Could be just a distraction because he's a sick sicko and we're not talking about Rick Davis

and the 15k a month he's been getting off Freddie Mac, 2 million over 5 years. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/24davis.html?_r=3&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1222317107-T1MuJP1ZF7dMmmHpDRYw8g

[orleans]

53. does this mean we should start stocking up on tuna and baked beans? n/t

[comrade snarky]

60. Remind me

Not to hide out from the fascist stormtroopers in a spider hole with you if all you've been eating is tuna and beans :-)

[aquart]

56. Ferguson just said democracies don't do that.

[Truth2Tell]

57. This thread is getting an average rating

I bet we are seeing the phenomenon of multiple "must read"s and multiple "skip it"s canceling each other out. This is a perfect test thread for exactly that phenomenon. Under the old system this would've hit the greatest page. Interesting.

("must read" from me btw) :hi:

[xiamiam]

58. just posted at the same moment...red alert is always a the set up...nt

[EFerrari]

59. It's such bs. Wall Street knows exactly what it has paid for

and what little Bush has to deliver.

This "meeting" tomorrow -- with Special Guests McCain and Obama! -- is just more bs theater.

I don't think they need to declare martial law if they can make us believe that what we want matters.

[DeltaLitProf]

61. I tell you I don't see this happening

Most local officials would go ahead and run the elections. Many secretaries of state and governors would do so also. Bush would then be in the position of demanding the FBI and other available troops actually go to election precincts and stop the voting. I'm not sure his present FBI director, Robert Mueller, would agree to this. He may have the fantasy of hanging on through the next administration. Then there's the question of whether the Pentagon would accept Bush's order in view of the legal fiction of posse comitatus.

I just don't see the election being suspended. It would be a political impossibility. Can you imagine how often Lincoln's 1864 election and FDR's 1944 election would be brought up?

[Douglas Carpenter]

65. NO! There is absolutely NO evidence of ANY kind WHATSOEVER that ANYTHING of the sort is in the works

at least for the forseeable future.

Now an economic meltdown that could conceivably lead to a depression is well within the range of possibility though. It would be fair to say that if that should happen - any number of major events then becomes within the range of possibility.

This economic meltdown is NOT some big conspiracy. THAT'S LUDICROUS!!

This meltdown is the very logical consequences of decades of rabid speculation financed by even more rabid lending and borrowing.

[earth mom]

66. This is a must read thread. It looks like it's been freeped. nt

[BelgianMadCow]

67. Think so too. Recommended

[MrSlayer]

68. I can't wait. It's going to be awesome.

Think of the history making fun.

[treestar]

69. There is no way to cancel the election

It would take the cooperation of each of the 50 states.

This is the genuius of the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution. We are protected from this. The states hold the election and the electors meet. Nothing Chimpy can do about it.