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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:18 AM
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Required Reading for any Ass-hats that think another Great Depression would be OK
http://www.wvculture.org/history/journal_wvh/wvh53-5.html

I get furious when I see ass-hats say that another Great Depression would be just fine with them - sort things out and horseshit like that. Here, read some accounts for the depression, see if this sounds like the USA you want to live in.

First quote:

"Feb 11, 1932

Dears:

<. . .> I've seen so much suffering during these few days. Yesterday I was in a boarding house run by Mrs Patakie, who stood barefoot on the floor as she held her baby - - telling me about her 22 mo. old boy who died last summer because she could get it no milk. It seems that during the strike she could not buy milk for the child, and no one would trust he. Milk was the only thing that the sick child would take, and she cried as she told how she had to watch her "beautiful child die." I was calling there to get information so I could get milk for her two pre-school children. They said they had never before taken any help from anyone. They evidently had been managing well before the hard times came. The mother looked as if she was about to be confined, but on questioning her I found it to be a growth which she said was caused by working too hard at times when she should have been in bed. I had to hurry my call, and it hurt me to leave that tear stained face!<. . .>"

Second Quote:

"March 1, 1932.

Hello Everybody!

<. . .> Went to one house - #28 at Davis - - to see a family named SUKAS. He walks with a cane, and is able to do no work. He has received no compensation since Oct 1931. Worked at Bunker mine. Has 2 married sons who are practically feeding him.<. . .> I found out that the mines had given him compensation - then put him back to work . . . Then when he found he was unable to do the work the mining Co. felt itself released of all responsibilities. The companies have no regard for human life. They tear men to pieces then let them go to die - Its a crime that there isnt government supervision over the actions of private companies. - - no social Justice - no Christianity<. . . .>"

Third Quote:

"Feb 2, 1933

At Home

Dearest Mother and Father,

<. . .> Remember the 21 year old girl and 36 year old man whom I mentioned to you the last time I was home? The family relations had come to a crisis, and the husband had asked me to help. Lies had been going around about his innocent little girl wife - and he was half believing them. They have 4 children and are expecting a fifth. Marie was married at 13 years of age - efore she had ever menstruated. At 14 she had her first child - All but one of the four are under school age. The youngest is still wearing diapers and is a thin puny child . . . . . . and they are almost naked for clothes - - - to think a 5th one is on the way! Marie said she'd rather die than have another child . . . . . I found out later from her that she had taken quinine, kerosine, iodine and everything she could get her hands on and nothing seemed to cause a miscarriage, so she had decided to go to the doctor and have her womb opened. Some one else on Connellsville Hill had had it done and altho it was a terriably painful process she knew nothing could be more painful than child birth. She is small. (He is large) The doctor gives nothing to the patient for this operation! and I guess it all but kills the person. When I first talked to her about it I thought to myself - - - I hardly blame her ..."






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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:20 AM
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1. We're not even close.
The economy grew at 3% last quarter. Home foreclosures are at 2.5%; during the Depression it was above 50%.

Ain't gonna happen.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:22 AM
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2. Thank you.
I find those posts ignorant and distasteful too.

Those posting to an internet discussion claiming to already be living in a Great Depression are being naive.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:28 AM
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3. My dad lived through the Great Depression and the stories he tells, I don't want to experience.
I don't want anyone to experience
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:30 AM
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4. The Great Depression
Changed the attitudes of this country for a generation, from the conservative Big Business is good, to instead, the Government must put people first. We need another event like that...to make that attitudinal change again. I have no home, a cheap ass car...I teach, you'll always need teachers-so what! Let it happen, at least then all the rich fuckers will suffer some too!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:41 AM
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6. I'm not trying to insult you, but you appear clueless.
Regular people will suffer 100 times more than the rich. You see that, right? 200 billionaires lose 90% of their fortune, but 200 million working-people lose the ability to eat.

We are far more urbanized than in 1929. The vast majority of people have no access to any means of producing their own food.


You have no home? So, you live in your car?

We'll always need teachers? Who told you that?


Your assessment of the effect of the Great Depression on attitudes is apt, but don't you think attitudes can be changed without causing deep and vast suffering?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:46 AM
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7. Not to mention there were STILL rich people before, during and after the Depression.
That didn't change then and it's not going to change now. Maybe the small-timer non-Robber Baron rich got pinched, but the Baron families mostly made it out unscathed.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:54 AM
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11. Exactly.
FDR's family never went hungry.

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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:35 AM
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15. Nothing changed this country so profoundly
in it's attitudes as that!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:47 AM
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17. Maybe so. Maybe no.
That's reason to favor it?

The Civil War changed attitudes an awful lot.

Are you in favor of that too?


The American people are already changing their attitudes. They are adapting to the economic changes of being squeezed. They are consuming less, making do with less, and reevaluating their priorities.

There's far more too lose if a depression on the magnitude of 1929 happens.

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:32 AM
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5. Too many are too far removed from the
Great Depression. They've never really known hard times. What they call hard times is just a blip in their finances, lasting but a year at most...not 5 or 10 years continuously like in the 30's.
People have spread out and don't have the contact with the generation who lived it up front and personal. My parents and grandparents all remember it and it's nothing to wish on anyone. At one time my father's brothers and sisters (11 counting him) had nothing in the house to eat except sugar. They survived but it marked them.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:46 AM
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8. Serious Question... Who the Hell thinks a Great Depression is Really OK?
people will be dying...
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:51 AM
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9. "The Great Depression left many people disillusioned. Another depression will leave America's

cities in ashes."

Wish I could remember where I read that.




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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:52 AM
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10. Wow.
The companies have no regard for human life. They tear men to pieces then let them go to die - It's a crime that there isn't government supervision over the actions of private companies.
The companies have no regard for human life. They tear men to pieces then let them go to die - It's a crime that there isn't government supervision over the actions of private companies.
The companies have no regard for human life. They tear men to pieces then let them go to die - It's a crime that there isn't government supervision over the actions of private companies.
The companies have no regard for human life. They tear men to pieces then let them go to die - It's a crime that there isn't government supervision over the actions of private companies.
The companies have no regard for human life. They tear men to pieces then let them go to die - It's a crime that there isn't government supervision over the actions of private companies.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:55 AM
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12. American's suffering was one of Bin Laden's goals...
To wreck the economy
To wreck the government
To make the American people suffer


DUBYA PLAYED EVERYTHING INTO BIN LADEN'S HAND! Bin Laden is probably sitting somewhere laughing at what he caused because he timed it when we had an idiot pResident! He killed 3,000 innocent people but our own government killed more by going to war and now many more will suffer!

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:56 AM
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13. Both my parents lived through the Great Depression
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 10:09 AM by NNN0LHI
They both swear things improved for them mightily around the time that the Depression began.

They said before the Depression began their families with their meager incomes (Whatever they could scratch up.) were trying to compete in a marketplace where most people had plenty of money which kept prices for food and other necessities high. Higher than they could afford. For a treat they would have the electricity turned on for a few days around Christmas if they were really lucky. They were literally starving.

It wasn't until a lot more people found themselves in my parents families shape that things improved for them. The jobs programs like WPA and other help began because almost everyone found themselves in the same boat as my parents.

Right now we have a number of people are really hurting in this country. Probably close to the same shape as my parents were in before the Great Depression. But right now the majority of people can still afford to pay the high food and energy prices which tends to keep those prices high. Supply and Demand.

Just thought I would throw that in.

Don
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:21 AM
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14. Yes - its the same kind of logic that the Naderites went for
"Get someone like Bush in to convince the American people to vote correctly"

IT doesn't work that way
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:42 AM
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16. Are there really fools here who think it'd be "OK"?
God, I need to come here and read more often! That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Thank you, no. Another massive depression would be devastating. What got us out of the last one? A war.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:23 PM
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18. who said it would be ok? the question is whether giving Wall St. a blank check will prevent one
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