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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:07 AM
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Poll question: Do you welcome a second great depression?

Okay, for WEEKS now I keep seeing all these posts, complaining about posters who are apparently giddy over the prospect of a Depression. I've yet to see any of these posts, but apparently the place is overrun with them.

So, do you welcome a second great depression?


Bear in mind, this means that YOU will be out of a job, YOU will lose your home, and YOU will miss meals often, and the meals you do get will be a slice of bread and thin soup.

You will be at extremely high risk of violent crime - you may be killed for some cheap bauble that could be sold or traded for food.

That is what a 1930's-style depression is like.


I personally think that a bit of economic hardship might actually kick American's butts into gear and finally make them get more involved.

But that is a FAR CRY from actually "welcoming" or being "gleeful" at the prospect of things getting that bad.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:08 AM
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1. No, but I'm against artificially delaying the inevitable..n/t
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:15 AM
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4. I sure hope that a Great-Depression-style period of universal misery isn't "inevitable"
or that it can at least be mitigated by sensible actions and regulatory changes...obviously things need fixing, not simply bailing out.

I personally am one of those people that believe the population of the earth is too big to be sustainable, but that doesn't mean I want to see a sudden massive die-off of humanity. I'd like to believe people can pull together enough at least to keep total disaster from happening.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:17 AM
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6. Was there a massive die off during the Great Depression?
I certainly don't think we're facing that YET. That comes in a few years when the oceans rise another few feet.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:30 AM
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14. my point was to make an analogy
melodramatic maybe, but what I meant was that I hope that economic collapse can be mitigated by sensible and unified action, much as I also hope that humanity can somehow come to a more sustainable existence without having to face massive starvation and death. I did not mean to say that the one circumstance will lead to the other, but just that hoping for a collapse of the economy in order to just get it over with is pretty drastic. Things will by necessity be bad for a while, but hopefully we can pull together to keep them from getting truly awful. (note: almost certainly not with any kind of blank-check bailout...we need to address the systemic problems)
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:32 AM
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16. I've got my fingers crossed that you are correct...n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:09 AM
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2. As much as a wake up call is needed nobody WANTS to fall to that level.
I've been preaching that it is more than possible for years though.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:11 AM
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3. This whole thing has been an excercise in bogus framing: the ONLY two options are:
1) Give us everything we want; or
2) Great Depression

??? :wtf:

And the whole scenario is made even more delicious given the fact that the very same people who didn't predict this crisis know for certain that not giving Wall Street trillions will cause a depression.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:16 AM
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5. It's the HATS, man. I just want one of those badass HATS!

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:20 AM
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8. Another Golden Age of Hollywood would be awesome too...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:19 AM
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7. If strawmen could vote...
this poll would be flipped.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:22 AM
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10. LOL. I had to think about that one for a second.
So true...
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:21 AM
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9. I would prefer a smooth transition to a green, sustainable lifestyle where
everybody lives and eats locally, and capitalism discovers a new paradigm that doesn't require eternal growth.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:23 AM
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11. UTOPIA!...n/t
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lutherj Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:38 AM
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20. Exactly. I certainly don't welcome a depression, but I see it as pretty
much inevitable, given the state of our nation's finances and the realities of peak oil and climate change. We can probably prop up the economy for awhile, and I support doing it, but as long as it looks like we can sustain the current economic regime, there will be no widespread support for systemic changes in our lifestyle. Once the economy collapses we'll can start building a green economy with public works projects.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:59 PM
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21. If I've learned anything from this episode it's this..
Mass destruction due to global warming will be upon us to the point of no return before the vast majority of politicians will want to do anything about it.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:23 AM
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12. I don't welcome anything...
that is bound to hurt myself, my friends and family, but I think we've all felt this coming for a long time now. I am too ignorant about global finances to have an opinion of what should or should not be done, or what may or may not happen.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:24 AM
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13. The DUers that are saying 'bring it on' are freeper trolls or young and stupid ideologues.
What ideology they ascribe to, I have no idea, but they clearly don't realize that a depression will hurt everyone except the super-wealthy.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:31 AM
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15. No but I'm up for some sweeping Chavez-esque nationalization program
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:33 AM
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17. That's why the repubs are absolutely freaking right now....n/t
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:37 AM
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18. Fear mongering pro-bailout bullshit, ignoring the inevitable.
Nothing you post here is going to prevent that which has already happened: Bailout (final swindle) or not, the government is insolvent and the dollar will melt down. In the next couple of years the economy will fail and the wars will be lost. Further on, the oil peak will become self-evident. The ecology cannot sustain this civilization in its present form. It is up to all of you to fight for an enlightened socialism and a new, sustainable way of living, or to live in barbarism under a fascist regime.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:37 AM
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19. It's being framed that if you are against the bailout you are for the Great Depression 2.
Which is total bullshit.

All most people who are against the bailout are saying is there is NO guarantee that there won't be Great Depression 2 AFTER we pay the * Co blackmailers 700 BILLION.

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