"Hijacking Catastrophe" -- I'm having a hard time breathing

[Shanti Mama]

A great but terribly disturbing film that has left me horribly frightened.

At minute 40, about half way through the section titled "Sorrows of Empire", Chalmers Johnson says

“Perpetual war, the loss of civil liberties, the lack of trust in government because they don’t tell the truth – these are outrageous and unpleasant political developments but they don’t necessarily spell the end of the United States. Financial bankruptcy does.”

Hearing this after having watched the beginning of the film and the accurate and frightening documentation of the rise of the neocons sent chills through my body. This financial meltdown is part of the neocon plan. They want the US to go bust and will get it either way, with or without the bailout. They need this in order to complete their plan.

I'm not usually a tinfoil hat kind of gal. I pay attention to conspiracy ideas because I think it's important to "disinfect them with sunshine", to form my own opinions. But this statement by a great historian and observer of America coupled with the "proof" of a neocon conspiracy has me undone. I alternate between weeping, trying to meditate and having to open my throat up to catch another breath. It's just that powerful. And that frightening.

I just found the "Sorrows of Empire" section on YouTube -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C02QHS0D44. Look at time 2:52 when Bush is just finishing and Chalmers' voice comes in.

Please tell me I'm wrong. Please tell me something to help me feel less afraid. Tell me the $ will still have value after oil is priced in Euros.

Is this what it felt like to live in Germany during the late 1930s?

[EOTE]

1. If you're not afraid, you're not paying attention.

I would tell you to cheer up, but I don't think it would do anyone any good.

[Shanti Mama]

3. but i have an entirely new view of the situation now.

Have we already lost? Is it too late for someone like Obama to turn the country around?

[EOTE]

10. My view on it.

I don't think it's entirely too late for Obama to turn this country around. I think he's an amazing politician, but still if he wins this election, he's going to have a monumentously difficult task on his hands. He's going to need to run a very FDResque presidency and he'll be attacked by republicans every inch of the way for it. His first four years will be very difficult to say the least, and it's going to take at least that much time to begin to bail us out of the mess that we're in. I imagine that in 2012, we'll begin to see markers of the economy improving, but because of the constant attacks, I imagine he might have a very difficult time getting re-elected. If he does manage to get re-elected, I think we'll see far more positive signs of our economy recovering and finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel in terms of ridding this country of our horrendous debt. However, if we're truly going to put this country even half way back on track, we can NEVER see another of these fascist neocons in office ever again. We'll definitely see them in many stripes and colors in the upcoming years. They'll appear friendlier and more cuddly and promote even "Compassionater Conservatism", but it will be the same damn pig with a different shade of lipstick. If they succeed in selling their message, they'll also succeed in completely destroying our economy rather than giving it the bloody gaping wound of the past 8 years.

[go west young man]

2. Just heard Bush make a freudian slip on CNN.

He said that lawmakers are in agreement that 'something suspic' then corrects himself by saying "something substantial" must be done. He nearly blew the lid off their whole charade.

[Draill]

5. I heard that too.

My interpretation of what he almost said was the same as yours.

[dixiegrrrrl]

7. He's done that quite a few times

and always been correct in the Freudian meaning.

remember " Our enemies never stop trying to hurt the American people and neither do we"? or words to that effect.

Many examples floating around on youtube/Bush stupid remarks type videos.

[lonestarnot]

9. and I missed it so please spell it out.

suspicious? was that what bushitler nearly said?

[shraby]

4. Why in the hell do you think we are so

mad at the idiots who gave him a second term? It scared the beejesus out of us.

[Junkdrawer]

6. "Things that can't go on forever, don't."...

Truer words...

[dixiegrrrrl]

8. Sorry....you are correct.

Keep educating yourself, it will help to feel prepared.
Google "10 steps to Fascism"

The smarter folks saw this earlier and left the country.
People are still leaving.
Some of us cannot leave for various reasons.
We have to learn to survive what is coming.

[bananas]

11. k&r - thanks for the video link. nt