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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:46 PM
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I just found out, if we reduce capital gains to zero percent it will solve the crisis
and the American taxpayers won't have to pay a red cent.

:rofl:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:47 PM
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1. I almost fell over when I saw that that was the House Reps proposal. They haven't had a new idea
since 1980.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:48 PM
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3. one of my friends told me that
oh wow, I can't believe anybody takes that stuff seriously.
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:51 PM
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10. Are you serious??
No! They didn't! Did they? :shrug:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:54 PM
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16. I read it yesterday - a two-year suspension of the capital gains tax
they feel this will help the private sector accumulate capital and bail themselves out.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:47 PM
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2. Only if we also ban same sex marriage and bar flag burning
Need the complete package...
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:48 PM
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4. don't forget the compulsory Pledge of Allegience provision
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:49 PM
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5. and make English our official language
I think that would add a lot.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:49 PM
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6. How much capital gains does one pay on a loss anyhow? LOL! n/t
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:51 PM
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9. I don't even know how that makes any sense at all
Is there any logic in there somewhere? Any?
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:53 PM
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15. That was my thought. Losses for years if the doomsday
scenario proves right.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:50 PM
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7. where do you see their "plan"?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:51 PM
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11. I'm not sure
My friend just told me that.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:50 PM
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8. Dubbed "The Helmsley Plan"
by billyoc. :eyes:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:52 PM
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13. hahahaha
Good one.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:55 PM
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18. LOL!
:rofl:

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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:52 PM
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12. the 15% tax is the ONLY thing holding me back from hiring 250,000 americans and making a fortune
i'm just not properly motivated because of that damn 15% tax. if it were zero percent, i'd be starting my own company on monday!

until then, my incentives evidently encourage me to live paycheck to paycheck, toiling away for "the man".

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:15 PM
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22. You too!
And that is so sexist, I toil away for "the woman."
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:52 PM
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14. Wait, I thought bombing Iran would solve the economic crisis ...
:shrug: Did I miss something?

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:17 PM
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23. It just came in The Surge already solved it
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:55 PM
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17. Yea, I heard that late last night and damn near choaked!
Unfortunately, you don't realize how many uninformed people THINK they have to pay Cap Gains when they don't own any house, and no stocks or securities. I've had to explain it to more people than I can count! The other thing they don't understand is Inheritance Taxes! People who MIGHT inherit $100,000 think they'll have to pay Fed. taxes on it! I've almost reached the point where I think the Feds should sponsor free televised education courses in these basics...but then I also know nobody would watch!
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:56 PM
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19. If we make the rich people EVEN richer, see, then everything
will automatically straighten itself out.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:58 PM
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20. Brought to you by the people who believe in Creationism. n/t
n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:02 PM
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21. Long-term capital gains ARE 0% for folks in the 15% tax bracket, now.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 03:09 PM by TahitiNut
So, people with enormous long-term capital gains who LIVE on their investments and have no "ordinary income" (i.e. they don't WORK) get off scot-free this year AND next year ... living off the labor of others! Take someone like Michael Bloomberg ... is it any wonder he only takes a $1/year 'salary' as Mayor of New York???
The Zero Percent Capital Gains Tax Rate
Saturday July 12, 2008

Starting this year, there's a new zero percent tax rate for long-term capital gains. To qualify for this zero percent rate, the gains have to be long-term. Also, the individual has to be in the 10% of 15% tax brackets for regular income. Here's a list of the 2008 tax brackets.

This zero percent rate comes with some opportunities to plan ahead. First, you can plan to hold on to profitable investments long enough to qualify as a long-term gain. At minimum, this means holding on to the investment for at least a year and a day. Investments held for a shorter period of time will be taxed as short-term gains at the regular tax rates. Second, tax rates are determined in part by your taxable income, which is your income after all deductions. Accelerating deductions will lower your taxable income, and thus help to keep you in a lower tax bracket.

http://taxes.about.com/b/2008/07/12/the-zero-percent-capital-gains-tax-rate.htm


It's insane. Capital gains taxation is the lowest in history!



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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 03:25 PM
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24. and if I take a 1/4" dowel, ram it through my ear
I can have 0% IQ and this crisis will no longer bother me...

seriously - is this crisis being hyped to hold us hostage for a freaking tax cut?????
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 04:13 PM
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25. it's the shock doctrine
Exploit a crisis to ram through a radical agenda you otherwise couldn't.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:32 PM
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26. excuse me while
I go sharpen the end of that 1/4" dowel...and find a hammer

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:53 PM
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27. exactly
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