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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:22 AM
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John McCain speaks to lower income morons and makes them think they're rich and about to be robbed.
He speaks to throngettes (tiny throngs) of Talk Radio Voters who likely make under $50K or $60K a year. He tells them that Obama wants to take their money and give it to lazy, fat, black welfare cheats and small, brown, shiftless interlopers who speak Spanish as a first language.

He and Palin are speaking to the same moron profile. You can always tell them. They break out in mindless chants of USA! USA! USA!. How is that any different than the threat-induced cheering we see from Tehran or Pyongyang.

Then he sees imaginary veterans in imaginary hats and tips his own imaginary hat to them.

Rah Rah War.

Then he says how he will **fight** for them and has the scars to prove it. To him, everything is solved by anger and fights.

Do they give out testosterone pills as part of the warm-ups for these fucking morons?

And when will he stop LYING with that $47K threshold that has been disproved over and over and over again?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:23 AM
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1. Now over to Palin, who has an even **more** slackjawed crowd.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:27 AM
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2. Unfortunately that is their base..
Those that look at others with fear, they live to loathe..
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:29 AM
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3. It simply amazes me how stupid their base is
They could sell them the brooklyn bridge.

:silly:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:42 AM
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9. I knew a guy who told me he used to buy white sheets up north here for 10 bucks a dozen
Then he would cut eye holes in them and take them down south and sell them for fifty bucks a piece as official KKK regalia.

Whats that tell you? These folks are a couple of kittens short of a litter.

Don
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:12 PM
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15. It's scary to know we share a country
with such ignorant folk....

:scared:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:31 AM
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4. That is exactly what the rich people in the South did to persuade
the poor white people of fight and die in the Civil War to protect their slave holdings. There seems to be many lower income people who look up to rich people because they are rich. Perhaps this is left over from feudal times. Who knows?

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:38 AM
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8. I think the fucked up Calvinist foundation of most of the Protestant
sects is the base of it - if you are rich, it's because god LIKES you, and if god likes you, I'd better, too, just in case. In opposing the rich you are opposing god's will because god wants everyone to be rich.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 11:03 AM
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14. Sounds like what the megachurches are still preaching - prosperity theology.
Unfortunately, they are leaving out ALL the other parts of the Gospel, especially where humility and kindness and such are concerned.

Am I the ONLY person who has read the red letter parts of my red letter KJV bible???? Sometimes it sure feels like it.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 02:14 PM
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21. In general, I think that you are on the right track about the attitudes
of the poor toward the wealthy. The principle might be broader than just the Calvinists.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:34 AM
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5. I am afraid this is true
One of my friends told me her co workers who are voting for McCain have actually informed her of this myth..they think they will be rich someday,and Mccain will make sure Obama doesnt take their money.
These are people who make about 8 bucks an hour. Its just so odd.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:34 AM
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6. the repubs have been doing this for years
Remember all the concern over the death tax. It will hit those with estates over $2M right now. But the pigs - via the rush and inSanity microphones - convinced their base that their dreams were being taken away by the Dems by this unfair tax.

And they believe it. And got all whipped up in a rabid frenzy.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:43 AM
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10. Talk Radio Voters .... the real way to describe what has kindly been called "Low Information Voters"
They're not low on information. They're low on reasoning skills and the ability to think critically.

They are political MORONS.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:06 PM
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23. but they can certainly mimic their source
never a complex solution via the reich-wing radio nuts. Their listeners could never grasp nor repeat their crazy mantras.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:48 AM
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12. Yup, see 1980. Reagan and "welfare queens driving Cadillacs". n/t
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:34 AM
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7. did he just say
that he would double the child tax credit?

If my math is correct, that would not only mean I would pay no federal income tax next year, but I would get a check back from the government. Wasn't he just complaining that Obama's tax cuts would do exactly that? :shrug:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:46 AM
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11. In the modern age, Nixon invented this appeal...
and Nixon begat Rove and Rove begat Jr. and Jr. begat Sarah.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 10:55 AM
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13. Horatio Alger.
And the idiots believe it every time.

http://www.alternet.org/story/17452
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:19 PM
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16. you think $59,000 is "lower" income?
that's more than 50% of US households make. It's also over 4 times what I make, so I would not call it lower.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:28 PM
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17. I think 50 or 60 K is not rich .......
...... which is, in the context of the point being made, 'lower income'.

Johnny is making a case that could actually be made with some intellectual honesty to people making over a quarter million dollars a year. But he isn't. he is trying to make the case to people that I ssupect are making much, much, much less than that ..... ie (in context): "lower income".

I hope that was your only point. If you want to get into some further discussion of "I make less than you and am therefore somehow better" it will be a monologue.

I'm curious though ..... why did you ask the nit picky question you did **in the context** of the larger point made in the OP .... which is that McCain is talking to ordinary people as if they were somehow part of the privileged class and getting them all worked up over a STRAW MAN argument that will NEVER IN THEIR LIFETIMES affect them one fucking whit?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 05:02 PM
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24. we all have different contexts
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 05:03 PM by hfojvt
my context is that I see people on DU who make $60,000 a year and think they are poor. There was an OP from somebody making $100,000 a year and complaining that they could not afford insurance. So some people need to be reminded that there are many people much poorer. Some people on DU also think that $250,000 is 'not rich'.

From my perspective, people in the $50-60,000 range are rich, depending on housing costs in their locale. Doesn't meant they are Oprah Winfrey or even Trent Green, but they certainly are not lower income. Nor, I would guess, are they lower income from the perspective of the 40% of households making $10-20,000 less.

I guess inserting a different perspective or some facts into a discussion is a bad thing. Slinking away now. :yoiks:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 05:04 PM
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25. No need to slink .... just try mount a credible argument to the topic at hand.
Context actually *is* important.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:35 PM
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18. eventually we're going to have to face "the marching morons"
we have created a society where only the educated and the most intelligent and those with an ability to think about the future plan their families

the uneducated, the hopelessly stupid, and those who can't make good plans for emotional reasons (bipolar syndrome that can't be controlled w. medication for example) do not plan their families, they simply spawn and keep spawning

therefore if we want democracy to continue in its present form, one adult, one vote, we are going to see a world where we are constantly out voted by morons unless we are willing to take the bull by the horns and control the population -- once you've had a baby (or two babies) no matter WHO you are, that's it, you're sterilized

i don't see any alternative

people stand amazed that a major candidate would appeal to the truly, deeply stupid BUT we have created a society where if the truly, deeply stupid are not yet in the majority, it is only a matter of time before they WILL be

it does not amaze me that they go ahead and stake their claim to the truly, deeply stupid voding bloc right now, today, the GOP has been aiming its message at the truly, deeply stupid voter at least since reagan if not ford

we don't seem to have the guts to grapple w. the issue of stupidity or the threat it faces to democracy
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 12:51 PM
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19. Excellent points
It really is all interrelated, isn't it?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 01:02 PM
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20. I can't understand how people can be so stupid and think
that McCain is looking out for their best interests. He is so detached, and is clueless.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 03:01 PM
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22. Some Republican voters are so dim it's mind boggling.
I know a poor guy who votes Republican because of the "death tax," even though he'll never have any money affected by it unless the lottery comes in for him.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 05:19 PM
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26. He's about 7 years too late to be screaming "We've been robbed!" nt
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 05:20 PM by Ilsa
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 05:26 PM
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27. Obama wants to raise Joe's taxes! Hey Joe, guess what, you're rich!
Paint the face of a $40K man over those of the top 5%... the shit works on these shitheads, without exception.
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