People joining KKK by the thousands not due to racism?

[honkydonkey]

Got into a discussion with a guy who claims that race is a non-issue and that people are joining the KKK and other groups because of "militant behavior" he has witnessed with his own eyes. I have yet to see any militant behavior besides the hillbillies buying up guns and preparing for "the end". How much pro-Obama militant behavior have you all witnessed lately? ha! These people are in such denial. They can't admit that their main fear of Barack goes back to one reason, he is black. Plain and simple.

[Catch22Dem]

1. All I know is, if a race war comes, I hope the other side will have me

Because I sure as hell don't want to be on the dumb white ignorant bigot side.

[glinda]

21. Here here. Me too.

[honkydonkey]

26. I talked to my girlfriend about this already...

I have a pass...if that day ever comes, I will be safe!

[cpamomfromtexas]

35. No kidding, me too, I'm a mutt, just the really white kind.

[Cleita]

2. Do you believe everything everyone tells you?

I think I would call that guy on bull shit. There are a lot of stupid people in Amurika but it's not a huge movement.

[honkydonkey]

8. HA ha!

I didn't say I believed that their numbers were increasing because of non-race issues...But the huge jump in membership is not made up. These rednecks are scared, they are buying up tons of guns and gathering together. There's a lot more of these nutjobs than I think people would like to admit. I'm not afraid of much but one thing that scares me is ignorant people in groups.

[Cleita]

32. I've got to agree with you there about the ignorant people in groups and

I think a lot of it has to do with spreading their message on the internet. Who taught them to use computers?

[glinda]

3. Where is your information on the "thousands" number coming from?

There has been a huge uptick in race related crimes and activities be it graffiti, hate speech, etc....I think the Republicans owe this Country a huge effort and apology to fix this issue now.

[honkydonkey]

6. The number actually came from a local news report

out of Louisville Kentucky. In one instance the enrollment went up from around 90 on the day of the election to over 2000 the day after. That was just one group. I guess they had so much traffic on their website, they ended up going offline, thank goodness.

[teknomanzer]

36. No mention of thousands suddenly joining hate groups...

on the Southern Poverty Law Center site. I would think they would be up to speed on that.

[honkydonkey]

37. Ummm, actually that's where the report came from.

Southern Poverty Law Center were in Kentucky due to a lawsuit they had filed in a KKK beating of a young man. Channel 32 in Louisville interviewed them and got those numbers. You can check the WLKY website for it.

[Realityhack]

14. Those are just the people acting out currently...

the thousands refers to membership in a hate group. I would not expect all members to have committed a hate crime... so I could easily see thousands joining. There is a lot of hate bubbling up.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. All those people joining the KKK....they will disappear if that guy takes his meds.

[Realityhack]

17. No they will not. Hate groups are a very real threat and the election has been a boost for them...

It is pushing people over the edge. We are seeing an uptick in hate crimes.
They are not a figment of the imagination as much as we would like to think they are.

[glinda]

22. Our neighbor quit talking to us

after the election. I am in a mixed marriage.

[honkydonkey]

28. You aren't alone...

And it's so sad. One of my best friends is in the same situation.

[acmavm]

5. Oh please.

[2Design]

7. Fix news is not a great place to get your news - it is total bs n/t

[honkydonkey]

18. He probably does get his info from Fox News...blah

But I do my own research and these hate groups have exploded in membership since the election. Creeps me out.

[intheflow]

9. The only domestic militant action I've seen recently

was against peaceful protesters at the two conventions. If that guy really believes the KKK isn't about hatred of others who don't share their race, sexual orientation, or so-called religion, his is beyond all hope of reason.

[honkydonkey]

23. He's a member of a group...

that has took off a little bit around here... He claims he isn't a republican (but I have my doubts) and he's not a democrat. He's more of a Ron Paul sorta person. He's into all kinds of government conspiracy theories...Most of it is rather bizarre.

[intheflow]

30. Well, that is who the KKK types of groups target.

People who are so afraid of "the other" that they feel they need to take the law into their own hands. :( Sorry to hear that kind of activity is ramping up in your area. What state do you live in?

[honkydonkey]

38. I live in Kentucky...

He lives in Southern Indiana. Indiana actually seems worse than Kentucky as far as organized hate. I rented an apartment in Vevay Indiana several years ago. It was a part of a huge manor house. The landlord lived in the same house in a different section. Not until I had lived there for over a year did I find out that my landlord was the grand-dragon (or whatever the highest rank is per state) of the KKK. He invited us to a "bonfire". LOL! Needless to say, we kept on driving when we saw who was there. The following week we were in a new apartment as well. They live around us and you'd never guess who they are.

[intheflow]

40. It's everywhere, you can't blame this kind of hate

on just one region. I come from rural Western Massachusetts, and the racism I grew up with was blatant and disgusting. The day after the election a black church was torched about 10 miles from the house I grew up in, maybe 5 miles from where my son and his wife just bought a home. It doesn't surprise me in the least. :(

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3586266

[pop goes the weasel]

10. they may be

But, what is our population again? Over three hundred million? I wouldn't worry too much, especially if they keep up this new trick of killing their new recruits: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/11/female-kkk-recruit-shot-a_n_143141.html

[Realityhack]

11. 110% Racism. n/t

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. They'd need hundreds of applicants to achieve a total IQ in double digits

[honkydonkey]

25. I know.

The majority of the people being arrested around here for threats are mouth breathing idiots and the majority of them are in their late teens or early twenties.

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. Number of teeth mulitplied by six = Klucker median IQ

[newfie11]

13. HMMMM the KKK

These idiots would stand just off the school grounds and pass out KKK pamphlet shit to my kids years ago in NC.

I also remember when we lived in rural VA my son and his little friend (black) both around 7-8 were exploring out in the woods near our place. They ran into a klan meeting. It scared them to death. All they did is tell them"you boys better get outta here if you know what's good for you". To two little boys they looked very scary.

They attract the same kind brain dead people as the skinheads. These types are are so inferior they have to pick on the innocent to make themselves feel important.

Unfortunately they maybe getting many people to join, hell knows they are good at recruitment. If the politicians and some local churches keep bad mouthing Obama and the fact that THIS year so many black people voted it might get some weirdo's stirred up enough to join..

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

15. the only militant behavior is on their side

they have terrorized Muslims and assaulted them.

[kristopher]

16. Southern Poverty Law Center

http://www.splcenter.org/index.jsp

Good place for this sort of data.

Click "intelligence project"

[honkydonkey]

19. That's the report I was referring to.

They had a very informative report about it the other night on our local news. Creepy

[glinda]

27. I think Bentley (Joel's Army) got busted for something.

Or he packed up and left Florida and ripped everyone off there. Where is that turd anyways?

[IndianaJones]

20. Maybe they're not bigots...who can know? what evidence is there? nt.

[honkydonkey]

24. HA HA HA! That's what I told him. n/t

[old mark]

31. Maybe they just look real good in white?

Why the fuck would anyone join the Klan if they were not a bigot?


mark

[mondo joe]

34. Maybe they just hold traditional beliefs. Or were told what to believe, which as we

all know no one has the power to resist.

;-)

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[TexasObserver]

39. Good! Let them join the KKK. It will make it easier when we have to round them all up.

For reeducation camps, where they learn to say "please," and "thank you," and other words so they don't have to communicate in grunts and clicks.

[GrizzlyMan]

41. Joining a known hate group should be a felony

Anyone found to be a member of the KKK should be tried, and sent to prison for no less than 10 years if found guilty.

[honkydonkey]

42. As much as I agree with you...

I'm afraid that would open up a can of legal worms that we couldn't control. A law like that would be abused by conservatives. It would turn into a regular Salem witch trials repeat...

[GrizzlyMan]

43. Perhaps

But a way around that would be to specifically target the KKK as a terrorist organization in the vein of Al Queda. Chances are if you decided to join an Al Queda cell operating within the US, you would be arrested or detained at some point. I worried that groups like PETA and Greenpeace would be treated as terrorist organizations post 9-11 but that did not come to pass.

[ksimons]

44. those kkk idiots would trip on their own hoods trying to run from real badasses

like the ones that would go after 'em if they tried anything completely stupid - plus those sheets are made in China