Gas in N. Texas is going for $1.80 diesel is $2.99 what gives??

[dkofos]

[snappyturtle]

1. Sulfur. nt

[dkofos]

2. Huh?

[snappyturtle]

13. In 2006 diesel fuel sulfur levels were lowered for environmental purposes.

It's refined more than it used to be, when it was cheap, so now it's more expensive to refine.

The following is from Wikipedia under Ultra-low Sulfur Diesel:


"Ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) (also spelled “sulphur”) is a term used to describe a standard for defining diesel fuel with substantially lowered sulfur contents. As of 2006, almost all of the petroleum-based diesel fuel available in Europe and North America is of a ULSD type.

The move to lower sulfur content is expected to allow the application of newer emissions control technologies that should substantially lower emissions of particulate matter from diesel engines, similar to changes that previously took place in the European Union. New emissions standards, dependent on the cleaner fuel, have been in effect in the United States since model year 2007.

[BOSSHOG]

3. $1.71 in South Mississippi. $1.69 saturday in the lower ninth ward in NOLA

[dkofos]

4. Is that for diesel or gas??

[BOSSHOG]

6. Gas. Diesel is in the neighborhood of $2.85

[seemunkee]

5. I noticed this AM that diesel wa $1.00 more than premium

It used to be less or the same, what gives?
Haven't had to fill my oil tank this year yet, wonder what heating oil is going for.

[dkofos]

9. Your'e right, it used to be less. Not sure about heating oil. I can tell you that as temperatures

fall the price of heating oil will rise.

[Justyce]

7. I don't get it. I live in the middle of the refineries in SE Tx, and

gas costs more here than it does in northern or central Texas, so explain that one... :crazy:

[dkofos]

8. I can't.

[amdezurik]

12. same here

I live across the bay from a Chevron refinery and gas has always been higher here then farther away. But at least PART of it may be that gasoline reserves are "full" now (after artifically lowering them) and now we will probably see that cycle again in a couple of months.

[guitar man]

10. my guess is demand

We can buy fuel efficent cars, motorcycles, bicycles, drive less, walk, carpool etc etc etc. But, the trucks and trains still have to run, haul their cargo and make their deliveries.My guess is that we founfd the breaking point on gasoline demand, but diesel demand hasn't changed near as much. :shrug:

[woodsprite]

11. In DE, diesel has been running about $1.00 more than gas

for at least the last year or two. Maybe before that, but we didn't have a diesel vehicle then, so I didn't pay attention. We just saw $1.86 here in Newark DE. Last Thursday the Shell station had it at $1.91 with the 5 cent Thursday discount. It just didn't go back up again after the Thursday sale was over.

Actually, DE has some kind of law that gas stations are not allowed to sell at a lower price than what they buy diesel at. It's to stop undercutting. We drove 15 miles (from Newark to New Castle) and we saw diesel prices from $2.83 to $3.35.

[Bitter_Clinger]

14. EPA at Fault

I owned a gas station a couple of years when the government mandated standards for low sulfur diesel came into effect. My price went up 1.03 from one day to the next. It costs more to refine the diesel to low sulfur standards and that cost gets passed on the end user. Yes the price went up 1.03 for me but I still only made .10 a gallon.

In fact it took me months to recover what I put from my pocket into buying that first load of low sulfur diesel. Here is why. Lets say that I was paying $1.50 a gallon and selling the diesel at 1.60. I used to buy 5000 gallons at a time. So when I sold 5000 gallons I would have $8000 and $7500 of that would go to ordering another 5000 gallons of diesel. I would only make a profit of $500.

Then I had to order 5000 gallons of low sulfur diesel. I still only had $8000 from selling the previous 5000 gallons but now those 5000 gallons were going to cost me $12650.

[louis-t]

15. Sure is nice to get the full story.

DU is my most reliable source of news. CNN? Not so much. Thanks.