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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:15 PM
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As Congress Lay Dying
The debate among progressive activists and commentators in recent weeks has tended to range from the leave-Obama-alone-and-he'll-fix-everything position to the stage-a-protest-at-Obama's-house-for-the-next-month position, including numerous stances in between those extremes. What all these positions share is acceptance of the incredible shift of power from Congress to the White House that we have seen in just the last eight years. It is in these concluding moments of the Bush-Cheney era that Congress's coffin is being constructed just outside our window, and I'm afraid that the peace and justice movement is picking flowers to bring to the funeral.

Congress is corrupted by money, media, and parties, and it has chosen its impotence. We've replaced a disastrous president with one who can't help but be in at least some ways dramatically better. Why in the world would we distract ourselves with worrying about Congress? The frightening reason is this: if we leave all power in the hands of the president, sooner or later all power will belong to someone even worse than Bush. The hopeful reason is this: the only possible path to truly transformative democratic change lies in re-empowering and reforming Congress. It may take some of us a few more months to consider the possibility of that. It may take us generations to prove it. The authors of the U.S. Constitution were closer to grasping it than we are.

Congress was supposed to write every law. The president can now ignore laws at his or her whim and rewrite new laws with signing statements. Congress was supposed to have the exclusive power to begin wars and the power to end wars. The president now does both and even negotiates treaties authorizing war without even obtaining Senate authorization of the treaties. Congress was supposed to raise and spend every dime. Now the White House simply invents or borrows trillions of dollars and gives it away without any pretense of authorization or oversight. The Iraq "Status of Forces Agreement" and the ongoing Wall Street "bailout" are eleventh hour nails in Congress's coffin.

What if the peace movement had not played dead for six months because there was an election coming, but instead had put some fraction of the time and energy and resources that went into the election into demanding that Congress not permit a treaty with Iraq without Congressional approval, and demanding a rejection of any treaty that extended the occupation? We're occupying and terrorizing a nation in the name of spreading democracy, yet that nation's legislature insisted on the right to vote and on the right of the nation's people to vote next summer on the new withdrawal agreement. This is the same model followed as we impose new "missile defense" bases on eastern Europe: those who have a voice are our president and the legislatures of our imperial outposts, but not our own legislature, much less the residents of the "homeland."

What if we learned that over $8.4 trillion was being looted from our grandchildren and given to some of those who least need it, and reacted appropriately? That much money could have been spent differently. Our government could have given almost $30,000 to every man, woman, and child in the country. Would you invest a thousand dollars in time and travel to lobby Congress to take back its power and our money, in exchange for taking a $30,000 check home? There's no reason we can't do that this month and have a much merrier holiday season. All that's required is that enough of us remember that Congress still exists and that our role is to tell it what to do. Washington, D.C., is on most maps; I'll meet on you the hill where the big white dome is.

Only one nail remains to be hammered home, and we may never again hear from the first branch of our late republic. Both James Madison and George Mason wanted the impeachment power placed in the Constitution in case a president ever pardoned someone for a crime he was in any way involved with, much less a crime he authorized, much less the crime of obstructing an investigation into a crime committed by the president, much less a direct self-pardon. I didn't go to law school, but anyone who did who argues that the pardon power includes the right to commit the same offense the impeachment power was created to counter deserves their money back.

Congressman Jerrold Nadler and Senator Russ Feingold and several good columnists and even some ordinarily awful editorial boards have spoken against the possibility of Bush pardoning crimes he authorized, but these voices have all falsely conceded that Bush can do this if he chooses before asking him not to. He cannot, and Congress is not powerless to stop him. House Members should sign onto Nadler's resolution to raise awareness of the issue (http://democrats.com/nadler-pardons ) but should not stop there. Congress members should pursue impeachment immediately for the commutation of Libby's sentence, pass a bill criminalizing the pardoning of crimes the president authorized or committed, if necessary pass of a bill to propose amending the Constitution to clarify that obvious point, and join with courts and the president elect in announcing that any such pardons will not be honored.

Congress contracted its potentially fatal illness in May 2006 when Nancy Pelosi stripped the impeachment power out of the Constitution, and has since then been bed-ridden. Nearly six years of Republican rubber-stampism had weakened both houses. Decades of power drift had created huge vulnerabilities, but the last two years have been a breaking point. Rather than impeaching, Congress members pretended to investigate known and possible crimes. When subpoenas were rejected and even witnesses who appeared refused to answer questions, Congress did not imprison anyone (as it indisputably has the power to do), but pointlessly asked the executive branch to enforce its subpoenas. In January, the Justice Department might honor such requests, but Congress appears poised to retract them and encourage us all to forget they ever existed.

Congress has grown unpleasant in its illness, and many will not lament its passing, but democratic representation will die with it. We will be very sorry to see it go, even if we won't know what we've lost till it's gone.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:17 PM
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1. K&R
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:23 PM
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2. Congress? What difference does Congress make when Paulson is King?? n/t
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 01:23 PM by truedelphi
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:24 PM
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3. K & R
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:32 PM
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4. "if we leave all power in the hands of the president
sooner or later all power will belong to someone even worse than Bush"

K&R
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:32 PM
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5. Good post
K & R
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singingbiscuit Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:49 PM
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6. Sad but true
:cry:

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 02:02 PM
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8. k and r
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 02:02 PM
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7. K&R----outstanding; hoping to fix my printer and deliver a copy
to the offices of my soon-to-be Congressman and Senator ( Martin Heinrich and Tom Udall), and Senator Jeff Bingaman. ( clean sweep of our 5 person New Mexico congressional delegation!)
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 02:03 PM
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9. Taxation without representation...and all that.
The "House of the People" must be resurrected.

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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 02:05 PM
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10. Political science has known about this issue for some time
Since at least the early 1980's. The theory is that members of Congress want to spend their time kissing babies and running for re-election. If able to delegate governing to executive authority, they do so. There's a lot of research on how they have implemented oversight authority to make sure their executive branch agents act as their agents rather than free agents.

There's a rich literature on exactly this subject--see Lowi, Niskanen or McCubbins & Schwartz.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:16 PM
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11. thanks
for author names

free agents? they're on the other team! :-)
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:29 PM
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28. Here are the full citations of the works
These are old on purpose, because they have served as the nucleus around which debate on this subject formed.

Lowi. 1979. The end of liberalism. New York: W. W. Norton & Company.
Niskanen. 1975. Bureaucrats and politicians. Journal of Law and Economics 18 (December): 617-43.
McCubbins and Schwartz. 1984. Congressional oversight overlooked: Police patrols versus fire alarms. American Journal of Political Science 28: 16-79.

Though Niskanen's interest is a bit narrower (and he's suspect as a Reaganite), nonetheless his model of MC's as self-interested actors using limited resources is one that most students of Congress would take as a given.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 05:04 PM
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12. Speak for yourself
I'm a progressive who for many years has objected to and advocated reversing the structural changes the neocons made to facilitate fascism, as the #1 priority for progressives. The national director of PDA (I notice you're on their board), no longer answers my emails because I sent him a list of four important structural changes that needed to either be reversed from neocon sabotage or needed to be introduced to protect democracy due to new challenges to the system. He replied claiming that PDA was already doing these things, so I carefully rechecked all the positions on their website and press releases w/o finding any such thing. I don't believe progressives will get very far advocating for important programs, e.g. single-payer health care, w/o the changes that are needed to restore the power of the electorate. In fact, I find just advocating these popular programs that have a snowball's chance of succeeding, w/o augmenting the representative aspect of government, a form of meaningless posing. Here is the wording of the email I sent in response to that PDA official's answer to me last August:
I appreciate your taking the time to respond, but could it be you've missed the point of my message? I mentioned ending the war, health care, and economic justice as the traditional worthy issues that are being derailed by neo-con structural changes that need to be addressed before these have much chance of prevailing.

Core progressive issues like universal healthcare, economic justice, and ending wars for capitalist expansion will gain no traction without winning structural victories, despite their popular appeal. Without the structural changes, as soon as progressives approach success on an issue, a corporatist MSM will erode popular support, neocon collaborating voting machine companies will remove key Congressional supporters, and/or neocons will find a way of spending/stealing enough that corporatist MSM and politicians can claim these measures are unaffordable."

The structural issues that I'm advocating are: 1)impeachment of Bush/Cheney to set precedent re the Constitution, 2)election integrity including open source (to qualified representatives of the candidates) code on both voting & tabulating machines, and non-partisan civil service BOE's required at both state and federal levels, 3(repeal of those provisions of the current "trade" agreements that claim supremacy over national law, and 4)steps against the current consolidation of the media and re-instatement of the Fairness Doctrine, to allow non-corporatist voices and opinions on MSM.


The PDA director felt that I was no longer worth speaking to, and didn't respond.

So I don't think it is the grassroots activists and commentators (check Sirocca and Thomas Frank, for two of many progressive commentators that are well aware of the underlying problems) who are conceding all power to the Administration. It is Congress that for reasons of its own feel that they can ignore all pressure that does not come from big money interests. Organizations which are outgrowths of Congress like the PDA, and conflicted liberal commentators like Krugman have developed the habit of saying that some particular thing should be done, but then go on to claim it can't--not us. Faxes, phone calls and emails flooded Congress in unprecedented amounts before both the FISA vote and the Bailout bill, and were disregarded.

I hope your citizens' lobbying effort is successful, although I'd finetune your demands, if I were you. I know that one of the Bush administration's many erosions of our rights has been to systematically deny permits for protests, then use excessive force against the resulting "unpermitted" protestors. But even when there has been a massive outpouring of people into the streets on an issue as in the Feb. 13th, 2003 anti-war protests, our entire government has been perfectly comfortable ignoring it, and that state of affairs doesn't even prompt questions in the muzzled MSM. Rove is allowed to romp around gathering dirt on everyone in power, and instead of turning around to expose his misdeeds and jail him, these "powerful" people with few exceptions prefer to give up on the duties of their offices. I'm beginning to think citizens groups would have to hack into the bank accounts of members of Congress or hire PI's to follow them around to get effective access. (That's not a serious suggestion, in case the FBI is reading this.)

Young people decided to boost a Presidential candidate into the forefront w/ huge #'s of small donations, until they felt betrayed by his FISA vote. Instead of negotiating to regain their good graces, the candidate decided to listen to a failed mega-bank director, and recoup his funding by becoming beholden to just the interests he had claimed to eschew when he was courting college students.

So it's not as though citizens haven't been trying one avenue after another to regain some influence. Unless I misunderstand your call to action, you seem to feel that there is a 2nd $8.5T available to distribute to citizens now that we have given an equivalent amount to a handful of bastards. If that's what you are advocating, it sounds about as viable as the African-American reparations movement of 10 years ago was.

There is one thing we haven't tried--a serious list of structural reforms as well as the Bush/Cheney impeachment, billed as a "Restore the Constitution" movement, and tied to a general strike. The MSM would claim participants were crashing the economy beyond all recovery, and create wall-to-wall reporting of how much money each economic sector or large business was losing, but it would be a little less easy to pretend it wasn't happening than all former tactics were. I have to wonder if it would be the only thing that would reframe the debate. There would be huge organizational problems to overcome, especially as the gov't, and I include the Obama administration, would have the organizers arrested and prosecuted as "terrorists", and the college student contingent would matter less than working people who are much harder to organize. Right now most citizens are not particularly savvy about the implications of the Obama appointments, or the chilling effect on Congress of leaving enhanced executive "powers" in place even if they are not overtly being used much. They think it is only fair to take a wait-and-see position, and give Obama a chance to fix everything single-handedly. The reckoning won't come until the Congressional campaigns of 2010. I only hope Social Security is not largely dismantled as being "unaffordable", by then. I think we are in for "interesting" times, but I wouldn't start by attacking grassroots progressives. I wouldn't make any major generalization about them unless you have an in-depth study of self-identified progressives upon which to base it.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 05:47 PM
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13. Thank you for all your hard work.
Most organizations end up being gatekeepers for the more elite powerstructure.

So once a person starts being ignored - well, it means you probably were becoming a threat.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:52 PM
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16. Well stated, clear eye. I couldn't agree more with your Restore the Constitution movement idea.
Unfortunately, that's why our Executive Branch is planning to keep 20,000 regular army troops on American soil in case of "domestic unrest".

I'm afraid it's going to take a lot of Americans getting their heads bashed in and going to prison for trying to change OUR government before the TV-hypnotized population even gets a faint whiff of the danger we're in.

Thanks for your efforts.

P.S. What's PDA?

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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 01:42 AM
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19. PDA is Progressive Democrats of America
They are a citzens' extension of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. They support excellent programs, but both groups are behaving as though the last eight years of erosion of democracy hasn't happened, and as though they still have a level playing field in the media. A bizarre illustration of this is that when you plug in "impeachment" into the Congressional Progressive Caucus's search engine, it delivers no results. That's right, zip, zero, no such issue.

To be fair PDA has a "working group" on the issue, but no info on it can be reached through any links on the site. The only way you can know that it is active is by entering "impeachment" in their site's search engine--hardly a method for organizing widespread support. This differs from their four priority issues, which can be reached through many links on various pages. PDA's only interest in "election integrity" is campaign finance reform. As important as this issue is, again it is an approach that doesn't address the neocon attacks of the last 8 years making it easier to "game" registration databases and the honesty of the count.

What I find disturbing is that as the neocon agenda has directed its efforts to structurally undermining the ability of the vast majority of citizens to have their needs and priorities addressed (witness the vote on the recent utterly corrupt bailout bill), self-defined "progressives" in Congress and their affiliates keep prioritizing bills asking for our fair share of the country's wealth, even as it gets more and more remote that these bills will get a fair hearing. If Presidents face no down side in flagrantly ignoring the will of the people by repeatedly violating the intent of Congress, because they know Presidents can only be impeached by having the corporate media expose unappealing aspects of their sex lives, why should they carry out anything but the agenda of their biggest donors? Especially if elections are frequently tipped by a corporate-controlled election count mechanism.

David Swanson has been bucking that trend and bringing us news about structural issues like Bush tipping the scales of the Civil Service employees at various important agencies by corrupting the process. Perhaps lack of support from the PDA is what gives him the idea that progressives don't care about such things. If you're reading, David, you've simply been talking to the wrong "progressives". Going by the huge grassroots support for Bush/Cheney impeachment going back quite a few years, and by the response to your posts and my last response, we're out here. As DUer Peace Patriot mentioned in http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4519246&mesg_id=4520519">this journal entry, we are so invisible in the media that we have often been convinced that we are almost alone in our beliefs, when in fact we have been in the majority.
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PinkyisBlue Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:38 AM
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24. Thank you for speaking for me.
These people should be impeached now, it's never too late for justice. How can we move to the future until we have dealt with the past?
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:29 PM
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29. I have been writing letters to my congress critters
for YEARS and all i ever get is we appreciate your view but dismiss it.
over and over. What used to be our government (if it ever was) is now completely corporate fascist owned and operated, that might be over generalization, but look at how much they pay attention.
I voted for Obama because the alternative was worse.
Frankly I don't give a damn what anyone around here says about me stickin out on this one, but obama turned traitor as far as I am concerned, when he voted yes to that damned FISA bullshit.
My partner says you have to know what levers to pull to change things in Washington.
Hiring rereretreads is not change it is more of the f kin same bulls t.
It is time to reorganize the government, cripple or nationalize the corpses that have gutted our constitution and raided our taxes and generally fucked us over.
Leaving Gates is the premier reason that I see this new administration as already failed.
I have watched as our rights were eroded over the last 30 years and the fascists have become our government. Also I cannot afford 1,000$ to travel to washington, I m very lucky that I do get a pittance on disability, it keeps the lights on and food on the table, my partner has a decent job as far as that goes, but we have just enough, and why the hell should I go to washington to talk to my so called representation? They say the same thing either at their in town office as they would in Washington DC. NO you don't count you don't matter only the big kons do with their campaign bribes. Such as DOD contractors, bankers, corps that have artificial ''human rights'' at the expense of us real humans rights. Time for all of them to go to.
I objected to the theft of the presidency, the war mongering, etc and was called a traitor and put on the no fly list, that was only the beginning of the spying on my personal life, which must have been boring for the surveillants, but it still trampled my personal civil rights.
Bushbois signing statements are direct contradiction of the Constitution.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:54 PM
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30. i hear ya
sorry if anything i wrote suggested any lack of awareness of our numbers
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 06:24 PM
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14. Well said. k&r n/t
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:46 PM
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15. Representation from congress? ...please don't try to make me laugh ...it's not funny anymore.
I get these generic response letters from my representatives. That's how I am represented. No impeachment. No end to the Iraq war. No criminal prosecutions of the Bush crime syndicate. They don't give a flying f*ck about me. All they care about is the fat paycheck they get and the extra favors from lobbyists. How much does a congress person make per year? My guess is that I could retire on what they get in a year. Congress is the largest collection of asscarrots ever assembled.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 09:54 PM
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17. Recced and kicked. Keep it coming, David. We all need to be reminded about these things.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 01:40 AM
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18. k*r TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:39 AM
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20. kr
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:35 AM
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21. There should be way more Recs & Posts on this thread!
:thumbsup:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:44 AM
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22. k&r -- Hope to come back to this thread later when I have more time. (nt)
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:25 AM
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23. Very true!
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:49 AM
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25. K&R
Already signed the Nadler resolution.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:05 AM
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26. Over the past few months, I've been watching and
contributing to (under a different pseudonym) the Comments columns in the New York Times.

When I contribute a comment, I almost always take a position that the DLC types on this board regard as "far left": single payer health care, the need for public transit and intercity rail, transparent voting, the futility of the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, against foreign outsourcing, for workers' rights, against the drug war, against the notion of combatting terrorist movements with military force, for progressive taxation, and for impeachment.

Invariably, I get a lot of readers' recommendations. My comments frequently make the top ten of Readers' Recommendations and are joined by others that express similar sentiments.

You may say that the Times is a "liberal" newspaper, but it's actually more of a yuppie liberal newspaper, not a populist one.

On political and economic issues, the readers appear to be to the left of the paper, which tends to reflect conventional Beltway "wisdom."
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:22 PM
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27. So very true...sadly.
I guess I can urge House members to co-sign on Nadler's resolution.

:kick:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:22 PM
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31. Personally, given the total fuck-up that George and his cronies are leaving the new administration
with, I would prefer that Pres. Obama hold on to those powers for a little while and use every tool at his disposal to set this country back on the correct path.

Then, after the work is done, return the balance that is supposed to be there to the government by changing the laws.

To throw away what are major weapons in the arsenal that are necessary to take back the country from the pukes is naive, short-sighted, and just plain stupid.

Wouldn't YOU like to see actual accomplishments rather than a battle to disarm the POTUS?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:53 PM
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32. More like, dead, you can smell the stench of their rotting corpse
particularly in the summer time.

Thanks for the thread, davidswanson.
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