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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:10 PM
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India Knew Those Mumbai Attacks Were Coming - The Gateway of India
By mid-September, Indian agencies knew that the attack would come from the sea, by mid-November, they knew that the Taj hotel would be targeted... And yet... and yet... A blow by blow account of how the plan to attack Mumbai by sea was hatched and executed ......


In mid-September this year, the CIA station chief in Delhi sought an urgent meeting with his counterpart in R&AW to pass on some critical inputs. This was part of an understanding that Indian and American intelligence had institutionalised in the aftermath of 9/11. From its assets in Pakistan and Afghanistan, American intelligence had come to learn that the Lashkar-e-Toiba was planning to launch a major terrorist attack in Mumbai, which would be carried out from the sea.

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By the middle of November, as Indian intelligence continued to check out further inputs, the pieces of an intricate jigsaw puzzle began to fall into place. Sources say they learnt that the attack would come from the sea and that the Taj Hotel would be a major target. However, it was not known whether this attack would be carried out by planting bombs in the hotel or by terrorists carrying small arms. Indian intelligence assessments were tilting towards bombs being planted and security at the hotel was beefed up accordingly to prevent terrorists from planting bombs inside the premises.

On November 18, R&AW passed on a specific advisory to the Coast Guard, which serves as the Lead intelligence Agency for the coastal area. The advisory asked the coast guard to intensify patrolling and look out for a suspicious vessel, probably of Pakistani origin, which had sailed off from Karachi. While the coast guard began to patrol the area with renewed intensity, the terrorists had an entirely different plan.


More ....http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20081129&fname=saikat&sid=1
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:16 PM
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1. Sounds like another LIHOP....
guess the Indian government has been taking lessons from the Bush Admin.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:26 PM
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2. They Were Watching the Harbor
But not the hotel. Too bad, that.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:31 PM
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4. Um, no...
"According to details available with Indian intelligence and the information given by the terrorist who was picked up by the Mumbai police in an encounter near Chowpatty, the terrorists hijacked an Indian fishing boat, the Kuber, somewhere near Pakistani waters. They beheaded the majority of the boat's crew of six and only allowed one crew-member, Amarsinh Solanki, to live so that he could help them with navigating the boat to Mumbai. The coast guard found a Global Positioning System abandoned on the fishing trawler that was drifting nearly four nautical miles off the coast of Mumbai early on Thursday, November 27 morning, several hours after the terrorist attack began.

While the coast guard was looking for a Pakistani or unidentified vessel, the Kuber (registration number 2303) blended in with the thousands of registered Indian fishing vessels out at sea."

Governments are not omniscient. In this case, the terrorists successfully employed surprise as a military strategy. Knowing that an attack is in the offing and trying to prepare for it is no guarantee of success; your response is only as good as your best guess about wht the opponent is up to. Otherwise, all chess matches would end in stalemate.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:28 PM
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3. Until proven otherwise, we only have "theory" to go on
The "War on Terror" as
Defined by 1984's Emmanuel Goldstein

EXTRACTS FROM THE THEORY AND PRACTICE OF OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVISM

by Emmanuel Goldstein

(The 'Book within a Book' from George Orwell's 1984)




I was just looking for a Google image:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/orwell_goldstein_1984.html&usg=__DmeTU0YGAeu75LyJAY26RHc9hV4=&h=125&w=170&sz=5&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=4HTy0NvvOC_wZM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Demmanuel%2Bgoldstein%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den

But the text came up as well:

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"The social atmosphere is that of a besieged city.. And at the same time the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival."

"It does not matter whether the war is actually happening, and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter whether the war is going badly. All that is needed is that a state of war should exist."

"In his capacity as an administrator, it is often necessary for a member of the Inner Party to know that this or that item of war news is untruthful, and he may be aware that the entire war is spurious and is either not happening or is being waged for purposes quite other than the declared ones: but such knowledge is easily neutralized by the technique of doublethink. Meanwhile no Inner Party member wavers for an instant in his mystical belief that the war is real, and that it is bound to end victoriously, with Oceania the undisputed master of the entire world."


"War prisoners apart, the average citizen of Oceania never sets eyes on a citizen of either Eurasia or Eastasia, and he is forbidden the knowledge of foreign languages. If he were allowed contact with foreigners he would discover that they are creatures similar to himself and that most of what he has been told about them is lies."




"Wherever he may be, asleep or awake, working or resting, in his bath or in his bed, he can be inspected without warning and without knowing that he is being inspected."

"Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity."

"The mutability of the past is the central tenet of Ingsoc. Past events, it is argued, have no objective existence, but survive only in written records and in human memories. The past is whatever the records and the memories agree upon. And since the Party is in full control of all records and in equally full control of the minds of its members, it follows that the past is whatever the Party chooses to make it. It also follows that though the past is alterable, it has never been altered in any specific instance. For when it has been recreated in whatever shape is needed at the moment, then this new version is the past, and no different past has ever existed."

"The essential act of the Party is to use conscious deception while retaining the firmness of purpose that goes with complete honesty. To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies, all this is indispensibly necessary."


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"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." - George W. Bush, June 18, 2002

"War is Peace" - Big Brother in George Orwell's 1984




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I just hope the truth comes out, soon, because I hate how cynical I've gotten about all this.


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