Group buys full page ad in Chicago Trib to demand Obama prove he's American

[Generic Other]

A full page ad running 2 days? WTF is wrong with these people?

<snip>
Should you assume the office as anyone but a bona fide natural born
citizen of the United States who has not relinquished that citizenship, you
would be inviting a national crisis that would undermine the domestic
peace and stability of the Nation. For example:
• You would always be viewed by many Americans as a
poseur - a usurper .
• As a usurper , you would be unable to take the required “Oath or
Affirmation” on January 20 without committing the crime of perjury or
false swearing, for being ineligible you cannot faithfully execute the
Office of the President of the United States.
• You would be entitled to no allegiance, obedience or support from
the People.
• The Armed Forces would be under no legal obligation to remain
obedient to you.
• No civilian in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of
your proclamations, Executive Orders or directives, as such orders
would be legally void.
• Your appointments of Judges to the Supreme Court would be void.
• Congress would not be able to pass any needed legislation because
it would not be able to acquire the signature of a bona fide President.
• Congress would be unable to remove you, a usurper , from the Office
of the President on Impeachment, inviting certain political chaos
including a potential for armed conflicts within the General
Government or among the States and the People to effect the
removal of such a usurper.<snip>

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/ChicagoTribune-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf

[DS1]

1. more money than sense

[flvegan]

2. That's "money well spent" you idiots.

Good luck with that. Your moms must be SO proud.

[Lithos]

By bona fide

They mean white of course.

L-

[HopeFor2006]

3. A "poseur - a usurper"?

That's what we've had for the last 8 years!

[KittyWampus]

4. I'd like to know who exactly is paying for this and who is organizing it.

[PatGund]

50. The "We The People Foundation"

They originally were going to do it in USA Today, but didn't get enough money.

They were getting donations from the various die-hards buying into the birth certificate nonsense. The ad was almost entirely taken from Berg's lawsuit.

[GoneOffShore]

5. Bunch of yahoos.

The "Income Tax is Unconstitutional" crowd.

"I enjoy paying taxes. With them I purchase civilization" Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

[depakid]

8. Nutters for certain

We the People Foundation

...a non-profit education and research organization in Queensbury, New York with the declared mission "to protect and defend individual Rights as guaranteed by the Constitutions of the United States." It was founded by Robert L. Schulz, a "high-profile tax protester", and is a leading organization in the tax protester movement.

The organization formally served a petition for redress of grievances regarding income tax upon the United States government in November 2002. In July of 2004, it filed a lawsuit in an unsuccessful attempt to force the government to address the petition (see below). The organization has also served petitions relating to other issues since then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_People_Foundation

[Forkboy]

6. A fool and their money....

:crazy:

[zbdent]

41. Believe Fox ...

[Forkboy]

47. LMAO!

Perfect!

[sandnsea]

7. While old ladies are going without medicine n/t

[opihimoimoi]

9. Why do they do this crap..they focus on the Moot/Minutiae like whining for the baby bottle

Same ole shit...low level crap...so low its not even mentioned....except for these dudes...

Its all they have...their Hero's have abandoned them...the believers....they do not realize this...yet.

Bush is gone into "I don give a fuck mode"

Everyone else is gone too...

The GOP Hierarchy is in disarray....these guys are all thats left....

[FarLeftRage]

10. You're kinda late...

Chester A. Arthur is long gone... idiots!!

[FrenchieCat]

11. The Chicago Tribune should not be taking their money......

but what-E-ver. :eyes:

[PBS Poll-435]

12. No shit.

After the Sinclair idiocy of 2004, TV stations and papers should not sell advertising to loons.

[2Design]

13. these people have been educated by people like palin - idiots n/t

[Skittles]

14. let's demand they prove they are human beings

[graywarrior]

15. Like anyone really gives a rats ass about what they do

Christ, why don't they go back to beating off to Speigal Catalogues

[pnwmom]

16. What colossal nerve. n/t

[Canuckistanian]

17. Glad to see the Trib making money in this economy

Those typographers and pressmen are what keep America going.

[laconicsax]

18. They're just doing their part to try to stimulate the economy.

[lpbk2713]

19. Get over it assholes --- you lost.

It's going to be a long eight years for you pathetic assholes. :rofl:

[ColbertWatcher]

20. If they had any sense, they'd be ashamed of themselves. n/t

[Old and In the Way]

21. These people will never accept that Barack will be President.

No amount of evidence will satisfy them. Selected pResidents that destroy the country are OK...just not dark-skinned Democrats who are elected by 70MM people.

[MidwestTransplant]

22. OMG what do we do. Obama has been found out. I for one knew all along but hoped they wouldn't find

out. This is very series.

[MessiahRp]

23. Call the Secret Service... there are physical threats in this

"Congress would be unable to remove you, a usurper , from the Office
of the President on Impeachment, inviting certain political chaos
including a potential for armed conflicts within the General
Government or among the States and the People to effect the
removal of such a usurper ."

These people need to be stopped.

Rp

[AspenRose]

33. Agreed

[Name removed]

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[undeterred]

25. Bush is a two term usurper

and that's a fact.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

26. Who payrolls the "wethepeoplefoundation"! NUFF SAID!!! eom

[bullwinkle428]

30. Exactly - follow the money! I'm sure it will lead to some wingnut

group like the Heritage Foundation or something like that...

[JeffR]

31. You can start here:

Robert L. Schulz, a political activist and tax protester living in Queensbury, New York, is the founder of the We the People Foundation for Constitutional Education, a non-profit education and research organization with the declared mission "to protect and defend individual Rights as guaranteed by the Constitutions of the United States."

An engineer by training, Schulz has filed well over one hundred court actions on a pro se basis, against government actions he asserts are unconstitutional deprivations of individual liberty.

In 1998, Schulz was on the New York State ballot as the Libertarian candidate for Governor.

Schulz is under investigation by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in connection with an alleged failure to file Federal income tax returns for years 2001 through 2004.

On April 7, 2008, the government filed a motion in the United States District Court for the Northern District of New York, asking the court to hold Robert L. Schulz and the We the People Foundation in civil contempt of court for failure to comply with the court order requiring Schulz to turn over, to the government, the names and contact information of the individuals who have received tax materials from the Foundation. On April 28, 2008, the District Court issued an order holding Schulz and the other defendants in contempt of court, imposing fines of $2,000 per day on Schulz, the We the People Foundation, and the We the People Congress, effective retroactively to April 28, 2008, if the defendants did not comply with the court order by 4:00 p.m. on Monday, May 5, 2008. At 3:55 pm on May 5, 2008, Schulz filed a document with the court asserting that he had turned the material over to the United States attorney's office earlier that day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Schulz

No doubt the trail runs far deeper...

[spoony]

39. I demand they all show us their birth certificates. n/t

[pschoeb]

44. dupe

nt

[pschoeb]

45. We need more than birth certificates for them

Obviously birth certificates aren't good enough proof for these people, so they can't be good enough to prove their own American citizenship. We certainly need clear film footage of their birth at an American hospital, DNA proof that they are related to their claimed parents, and of course the same evidence for the claimed parents. Really this is the only way to truly guarantee American citizenship, anything less and the terrorists have won. Sure it might mean we never have another President again, but it is a worthwhile cost to protect us from the possibility of a nefarious foreign candidate.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

27. LOL...they buy adspace in a paper in Obama's hometown where he won overwhelmingly

Let them waste their money. We love Obama here!

[Cleita]

28. Obviously, they have too much money to spend on crap. n/t

[sakabatou]

29. *sigh*

[dysfunctional press]

32. get ready for 4-8 years of this kind of shit- and MUCH worse.

these were the kids who always threatened to 'take their ball and go home'- and if things didn't go their way- they would...(take their ball and go home).

the treatment they gave bill clinton will seem like a friendly reach-around by comparison.

[rvablue]

36. But this time it won't work, Clinton didn't have

Keith, Rachel, DU, DKos, Air America, etc. etc. and the RW smear machine that had been in the works since Nixon was kicked out of the White House in shame had the media's ear.....there was nothing to counteract it.

Just think, within 5 minutes, this series of tubes (the progressive ones) debunked the "B" and her lies......

Not this time. Although, it's not like they aren't going to try their damndest.

[dysfunctional press]

42. "Keith, Rachel, DU, DKos, Air America, etc. etc...."

what's that got to do with anything...?
it's the attitude of the MAINSTREAM media that matters- and if they play ball for their corporate owners the way they did against clinton, the fringe left won't really matter.

[rvablue]

43. Sorry but KO, Rachel, DU, Dkos are no longer the "fringe left".........

and like I said, it's not going to silence the RW smear machine, but we have many more "truth soldiers" out there this time around to counter act the lies.

[dysfunctional press]

49. sorry...but they are.

them's just the facts...:shrug:

[Vickers]

34. I wonder if these assclowns were as concerned about McCain's Panamanian

birth certificate.

:rofl:

[Hekate]

35. What transparently racist and xenophobic claptrap. If Obama's mother had fallen in love with a Swede

... instead of a Kenyan, does anyone honestly think we would be subjected to this crap?

Usurper? Poseur? What about Baby Caligula, installed by the SCOTUS in a genuine coup d'etat?

God help us all, and may the Secret Service keep our lawful President, Barack Obama, safe.

Hekate

[CreekDog]

37. Who is recommending this crap?

i mean there's only 2, but still. :wtf:

[Loudmxr]

38. PFFF!!! Even I have a copy of his BC.

I just can't figure out how to post the damn thing. It looks really nice if you haven't seen it. "Barak Hussien Obama II." :party:

[Mister Ed]

40. I believe they're trying to provide right-wing whackjobs with a rationale for revolt

"You would be entitled to no allegiance, obedience or support from
the People."

"The Armed Forces would be under no legal obligation to remain
obedient to you"

"No civilian in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of
your proclamations, Executive Orders or directives, as such orders"

It's not a plausible rationale to sane people. But to right-wing whackjobs...

[Ezlivin]

46. Would the paper allow a full-page ad for atheism?

I'm curious because it seems like certain groups can always run advertisements while others always encounter "unfortunate" obstacles.

[ThatsMyBarack]

48. Oh, noes....

Get over it, you morans!