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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:01 AM
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9 beheaded men found in Tijuana
9 beheaded men found in Tijuana

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/fromcomments/103956.php

November 30, 2008, 8:48 p.m.
The Associated Press

TIJUANA, Mexico -

The bodies of nine decapitated men were found in a vacant lot in Tijuana Sunday, part of a wave of violence that claimed at least 23 lives over the weekend in this border city plagued by warring traffickers, authorities said.

The heads were discovered in plastic bags near the bodies in a poor neighborhood of Tijuana, across from San Diego, Baja California state police said in a statement. Three police identification cards were also found at the site.


The statement gave no motive for the killings, but they came as Mexico's drug cartels wage a bloody fight for smuggling routes and against government forces, dumping beheaded bodies onto streets, carrying out massacres and even tossing grenades into a crowd of Independence Day revelers - an attack that killed eight people in September.

More than 4,000 people have died so far this year in drug-related violence in Mexico.

Across Tijuana on Sunday, attacks by gunmen killed five people in addition to the nine beheaded bodies.

State police said nine more people were killed in attacks on Saturday. In one, gunmen killed a 4-year-old child in an attack on a grocery store.

Baja California has suffered a rising wave of homicides, which officials blame on a struggle between rival cells of the Arellano-Felix drug cartel.

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President Felipe Calderon on Sunday vowed his government would never negotiate with drug lords no matter how much the violence escalates.

Since taking office on Dec. 1, 2006, Calderon has sent more than 20,000 soldiers to battle drug trafficking across Mexico, helping to seize of 70 tons of cocaine and 3,700 tons of marijuana, he said.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:17 AM
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1. Ten years ago I was on duty one fine winter night
when the dreaded code came over the radio... the army was requesting our assistance.

Now in a disaster nobody gives a hoot, kind of expected... but this was not the case

This was the second or third shoot out between Federal Agents and the Arellano Felix Cartel... and the Feds were outgunned so they asked for military aide... and the army complied, no Posse to stop this. In mexico there is no Possee

We arrived on scene and closing one side was a Mexican Army Humvee with the obligatory 50 cal HMG on top, manned by a trooper in full kit.

The other side of the boulevard had the same.

In the middle there was roughly a company of combat troops, with a couple M-113, or Bradleys, one of them serving as a command vehicle. IN the middle of this mess was one of my rigs, manned by a very YOUNG crew, who got a talk that day about the Rules of Land Warfare and the Geneva Convention and how easy it is to loose neutrality, did I mention lit like a christmas tree? Yep, lights going... NICE... and every trooper around away from the nice, shiny target. Yes, the times that cold shivers run down your damn back.

On board my young EMTs had an Army Lt... in full kit, and fully armed with both a FAL Assault Riffle (5.56x45 standard Nato rounds, and 1911 .45). Suffice it to say that my first action before we did anything else was disarming this young Lt... not that we were neutral any longer. After that we transfered to my rig for transport, put a traction splint O2, started IV and the rest of that jazz, while we started to move. I heard a zing by my ear, and never in my widest dreams did I think a thing about that... just that I felt the sweat and could smell the fear... oh and protocols in those situations revert to combat medicine... do what you can.. mostly.

When all was said and done my partner and I were shot on the way out of that scene... as we were no longer neutral... and the bullet passed scarcely centimeters from my O2 regulator and ME... yes, that close. As we aproached the army base I told my partner, to get the lights going, we went out in silent response with all internal lights off, since NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY had any idea if there were kill zones anywhere. So he turned the lights on, just as the troops were locking and loading to defend their post... scary shit I tell you.

That was the third shootout in that many weeks. The first we transported the wife of a cartel head... her son died in that one...

The second we transported cops to local trauma center, shot with high powered weapons.

I knew then that things had come to a head.

So I was talking to a cop I know here in San Diego and he described how the violence is increasing and how they have had some fun shootouts with the same folks in the southern part of the county. It sounds like Tijuana ten years ago... and yes, President Calderon may want to tell whatever he wants to tell us... the war was lost ten years ago... in my judgment. And that violence is now moving north.

Oh and the fun part of this story, swear to god the Marines got mobilized to the border, the border patrol was proof positive there had been a coup when they saw that much military grade hardware moving... on the other side of la cerca... fun, to 'splain to a young Marine Officer that no, there was no coup... just a major shooting that involved the army. Remember, ten years ago NORCOM did NOT exist. Perhaps it is time to reach for the tinfoil hat...
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:27 AM
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2. '98, you say?
I was in Pendleton then... I think I may have caught the other half of that story; nice to hear your half of it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 12:35 AM
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3. Yeah they were from Pendleton
Suffice it to say, when my partner and I went home, we live in the States. We were sent STRAIGHT to secondary... nice uniforms after all

And we had a short talk with a Marine Officer

'splaining that if we had a coup... we'd not be out of there in three hours.

I could tell they were nervous... and I could also tell when they started to relax... I think a long laugh was involved as well.

Oh and my young crew... had extra work on Geneva Convention and why you don't load folks into an ambulance who are wearing a uniform and carrying a weapon.

I felt like a crappy instructor that night... hell of a way to get that lesson though.

I stopped doing that soon after... and now that I think about it, '95.. how time flies.

I married in '98... so I guess that is thirteen years ago...

Bright side, that will give us some time, perhaps... to turn away from that madness.

Suffice it to say, that story... was the first time the army started to take out to the streets regularly, so would not surprise me if there was a similar event in '98... things have just gotten hotter... and it is a war... by any other name... with a fair amount of terrorism to boot. Moreover, I got shot way too many times... more than I care to remember.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 01:01 AM
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4. More than 4,000 people have died so far this year in drug-related violence in Mexico.
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/fromcomments/103956.php

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The Arellano Felix cartel emerged in the 1980s as a drug trafficking powerhouse across the U.S. border from San Diego, but has been weakened in recent years as leaders were killed or captured.

Last month, police arrested Eduardo Arellano Felix, the alleged leader of the cartel. Authorities say his nephew, Luis Fernando Sanchez Arellano, has taken over the cartel's operations and is fighting contenders.

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That sounds pretty damn hairy, nadinbrzezinski !!

It's just getting worse there. :(
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:16 PM
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6. And the point of that story is that it is going to get that way here
that shootout is just one of the EARLY ones... I've heard very similar stories from people in law enforcement this side of the border.

No, they don't involve the Arellanos... some times (They are still strong), but they have those echoes as well
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:05 AM
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5. I salute you, and people like you
The brave ones trying to defend our border from murderous, drug-trafficking scum. :patriot:
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