Diebold Vote Company Whistleblower and GOP Cyber Security Expert: 2002 Chambliss Senate Race Was

[babsbunny]

Rigged

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Diebold-Vote-Company-Whistleblower-GOP/story.aspx?guid={D57004A9-F706-4FD0-B1AB-29FB4107C8C1}

PRESS RELEASE

Last update: 9:44 a.m. EST Dec. 1, 2008
WASHINGTON, Dec 01, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- In an exclusive interview with Velvet Revolution ("VR"), a DC based non-profit dedicated to a clean and accountable government, a former Diebold vote machine contractor who was in charge of preparing the 2002 election between Saxby Chambliss and Max Cleland has stated that the software patches placed on the voting machines in the weeks prior to the election could have rigged the election in favor of Republican Chambliss. The contractor, Chris Hood, was ordered by the President of Diebold, Bob Urosevich, to secretly install uncertified software patches on machines in predominantly Democratic counties, according to Mr. Hood. Saxby Chambliss won a surprising victory after trailing badly in the pre-election polls.
The interview with Mr. Hood, posted by Velvet Revolution ("VR"), can be seen on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnIghBsU58. Rebecca Abrahams, a former ABC News producer who conducted the interview, states, "Jim Martin should be concerned about the veracity and validity of the runoff election results after anomalies in the last election and the statement by Chris Hood. In fact, voters should demand to know if Chambliss had any knowledge that the 2002 election was rigged and whether he knew that Georgia citizens voted on electronic voting machines that had been patched with uncertified software days before the election in clear violation of Georgia law."

[brooklynite]

1. Operative word being "could"...

If he has evidence or knowledge of a crime being carried out, he should be talking to the FBI or Justice Department, not a non-profit group.

I know this is an unpopular position to take, but I continue to see no HARD evidence of tampering specifically to change votes, and no explanation of how a conspiracy to fix this or other elections could take place without the details leaking out, or without the ability to replicate the vote fixing in recent elections.

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. Yeah, DOJ and the FBI have such a good track reocrd of pursuing Republican crimes.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Urosevich

[Joe Chi Minh]

6. And no doubt, in the course of time, your curoisity will be satisfied.

[BeFree]

7. You're right

It is an unpopular position, especially since there is HARD evidence, and there is an explanation of how fixing elections can take place because the details have leaked out. So not only is it an popular position, it is an uneducated and uninformed position.

[glitch]

12. Talking to the Bush DOJ would have been foolish.

I don't blame people for waiting for a less corrupt justice department to whistle blow, and a less compliant media to actually report on it all.

I am looking forward to the floodgates opening when enough people feel safe enough to report what they have seen.

[stillcool]

17. There have been several studies done...

about the security issues with computerized voting. The Secretary of State in Ohio, Jennifer Brunner, had a study done called EVEREST.
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/SOS/Text.aspx?page=4512&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
The Brennan Center, at New York University of Law is my favorite study. They point out the various ways to flip a state wide election, and also point out how many people are needed to do it.
http://www.brennancenter.org/
The University of Connecticut, and another University in California also conducted studies.

[Hekate]

18. Please see my post #16 for some info. Also see DU's Election Reform forum & Archives. nt

[eridani]

21. Of course you don't see any fucking evidence. That's because you aren't allowed to look for any

Private software, trade secrets.

[Ignis]

29. That's because you're not allowed to look at the source code.

What did you expect would happen--Diebold's going to admit they defrauded voters?

[IntravenousDemilo]

2. If true, Chambliss ought to return all salary and emoluments derived since 2003 from his office.

Plus interest, of course, compounded.

[glitch]

13. Not to mention prison. nt

[Uncle Joe]

3. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, babsbunny.

[alstephenson]

4. k & r

[Stevepol]

8. Do tell?

I like how fast the MSM is in cutting to the chase and jumping on these hot issues. There have been 6 years of constant ferment on the IT, all kinds of evidence of wrong-doing brought out, many whistleblowers, dozens of academic studies of the machines, and many intentional hacks showing how vulnerable the machines are to hacking, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum, and now suddenly the MSM is all over the GA 02 election.

Bev Harris had a whistleblower from day one, Rob Behler I think was his name, who did the same thing Hood did.

What's the deal? What is this sudden interest that the journalists have in doing their jobs?

[The Doctor.]

28. VR is hardly the M$M. n/t

[niyad]

9. we know that--the question is, what is ever going to be done about it?

[FLAprogressive]

10. K + R

[Hekate]

11. Wasn't this the race with the infamous results of exactly 1818 etc in several counties?

I have to dig through my old notes on election fraud, but maybe one of you remembers off the top of your head.

Hekate

[glitch]

14. 18181, in Texas if I recall correctly. nt

[Hekate]

16. Getting the number right helped me refine my Google search, in which DU itself popped up

For "2002 election results + 18181" I got this at the top of the list

From 2003 archives: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x17001
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/tripp02202003.html
> "Computerized voting machines in the 2002 election did all kinds of weird things: if you pressed the Democrat's name in some counties in Texas, for example, the Republican's name was chosen. And in Cormal County, Texas, three Republican candidates won by exactly 18,181 votes apiece. There's the kind of coincidence the FBI loves. But it gets even more amazing: in two other races elsewhere in this great nation, Republicans won by--wait for it--18,181 votes. The odds of this are similar to the odds of waking up on the surface of Mars with your underwear on your head and a bowling trophy gripped between your knees. These results were eventually 'adjusted', proving it was all just a wacky coincidence. But how can we know? Because there is no physical evidence of how a vote was cast. No punch card, no paper ballot, no twig with notches in it." >>>

From 2004 archives: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=33600&mesg_id=33736
> It was 2002 ... there were 5 cases of 18,181 votes ... all for Republicans
> 2002 Elections ... reference here:
> http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm
> Who won by 18181 votes in 2002 election?
DANNY SCHEEL (Texas): 18,181 votes (Comol County)
CARTER CASTEEL (Texas): 18,181 votes (Comol Country)
JEFF WENTWORTH (Texas): 18,181 votes (Comol County)
CANDICE MILLER (Michigan): 18,181 Votes (Lapeer County)
MICHAEL SMIGIEL (Maryland): 18,181 Votes (St. Anne's)
All five won and all five Republicans. >>>>

[glitch]

20. Yeah, in a sane world it would have set off alarm bells in the DOJ.

Bushworld, not so much.

[Occulus]

24. AHAHA.

:)

[Hekate]

25. Eggs-zackly

[Laelth]

15. Of course 2002 was stolen.

Nothing new, and nothing we can do about it. I don't believe GA went for McCain this year, either. GA an NC are too similar. It should have been a lot closer.

The United States is a LIBERAL Country.

:dem:

-Laelth

[riqster]

19. Patch application 101:

Employee/Contractor gets an email with a 'patch'. He or she is told load it to the proper medium (CD, Thumb drive, etc.) and go to all the BOEs in his/her territory and 'update' all the applicable hardware. Worker Bee does as instructed.

Worker Bee does this kind of thing all the time and thinks nothing of it.

However, if W.B were to HOLD ONTO the patch, and a qualified software engineer were to examine it...

[drm604]

27. This has apparently happened.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=spoonamore+vradmin&search_type=

Republican computer security expert Stephen Spoonamore has examined the Georgia patch and says that it is not a clock fix, as was claimed, but that it may instead be vote swapping software.

[riqster]

30. That is correct nt

[Dinger]

22. Fuck That Pasty-Faced prick (nt)

[BrklynLiberal]

23. This alone should have disqualified chambliss from running again!!!

[mcg]

26. Does Georgia still use Diebold machines? If so, how do we know ...

if the run-off election counts were accurate?