I've met Hillary Clinton before. Let me be the first to remind you she is human.

[Taverner]

I met her in 96, when her husband was running for re-election.

I was a cub reporter, and she was, well, Hillary

Don't let anyone tell you she's beyond humanity

She, like our party, wants the best for America

She, like you and me, just wants the solution, not the glory

Sure, she came across as NE Conservative - but guess what, she's from the NorthEast and used to be a Goldwater Girl.

I voted for Obama, but am psyched Obama brought her in as Sec of State

If you are worried for whatever reason, let me assure you with this

Reason is her king, not storybooks

She may be a very devout Christian, but reason is her method

[damonm]

1. WHAT?!?

She's NOT an Evil Cyborg Alien from the 9th Dimension bent on destroying All That Is Progressive in the name of Clintonian Narcissistic Glory?!?

Stop the presses!:silly:

[Andyit999]

11. Human or not...

...regardless, shes shouldn't be Secretary of state. Here's why.

Hillary Clinton: Gandhi Works In A Gas Station
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9LP0ATVJc

[PeaceNikki]

13. Wow, if jokes in poor taste and gaffes make one ineligible for cabinet positions...

the cabinets would be empty.

[Taverner]

17. She's human. She wasn't raised in California. She FUCKED UP.

Like I said, she, being human and all, has had her share of really stupid mistakes.

I made some really stupid mistakes once. And I'll be the first to admit that I was very stupid at certain points in my life.

------------

On the other side of the argument, I remember when that happened and I was thinking:

WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE THINKING?????

That was stupid on a scale of stupidity that I've never seen before.

[PeaceNikki]

19. ayup.

I agree 100%. Horrible.

[uppityperson]

27. you only lasted 4 posts?

It should take longer to get TS'd than it takes to register. Search shows me a spammer.

[hendo]

29. at least we didnt have to put up with that poster

for very long.

[Jackpine Radical]

12. Link?

[Lyric]

2. Just one little thing--she isn't from the North East

She's actually from Illinois--born in Chicago, and raised in the Chicago 'burbs. She didn't leave until she went to college.

Other than that, I agree with you completely. :)

[Taverner]

4. Yes - but I consider her experience from Wellesley on to be her real start

By the way, did I spell Wellesley right?

[Lyric]

5. Yep. It's Wellesley. :)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Yeah, she's from Illinois.

But Illinois doesn't count.

[deaniac21]

3. Very devout christian? Hmmmm.

[Taverner]

7. Hey - I'm an Atheist

If anything, the devout Christian part should ruffle my feathers

But she's usually been on the good side of Separation of Church and state - and she doesn't answer questions about her religion. This, to me, is the sign of a REAL Christian (Matthew 6:6.)

[deaniac21]

10. She rarely went to church in Arkansas and only then after Bill

lost an election in 1980.

[Taverner]

15. True - but she attended all of the prayer breakfasts and offerings while in the Senate

Look - if she's made her peace with her invisible friend, then so be it.

All I ask is that they don't interject it into our lives, and her attitude has been just that (not interjecting, that is...)

[hendo]

28. she doesnt answer questions about her religion

because she is afraid that someone will catch her in a lie.

[deaniac21]

36. Bingo

[Beacool]

9. Yes, she is.

Far more than Bill. She's a Methodist and her faith has always been important in her life, she just doesn't wear it in her sleeve like some people.

;-)

[Jackpine Radical]

14. Wasn't she also a member of some very conservative Christian group in DC

when she was FL? Some group that a lot of fundie southern Republican women belonged to?

[Taverner]

16. Congressional Prayer Breakfast

[Jackpine Radical]

18. Nothing so...conventional.

Found it.

Here, from MoJo http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."

[Beacool]

23. The prayer group was made out to be more nefarious than it is.

All senators are welcome, even though the majority that do attend are the Christian conservatives. Hillary started attending as a freshman senator and continues to do so whenever her schedule permits. No politics is allowed during these prayer breakfasts. People basically talk about the experiences that occurred to them since the previous week or anything else that pops in their head. During one of these meetings Sam Brownback apologized to Hillary for all the nasty things he had said about her and Bill and she accepted his apology.

[hendo]

30. Yup

there's absolutely nothing wrong with the prayer group.

[Taverner]

32. Oh I agree, and she uses it as a Methodist would

Nothing wrong with that

She supports the separation of Church and State - which is the most important thing

[hendo]

33. Yup

the separation is nice. I would hate to live in a theocracy.

[Taverner]

34. You have to understand we Atheists are seriously afraid of that

And Christians who speak for reason would be in just as much trouble in a Theocracy

[hendo]

35. However

I highly doubt that America is really in trouble of becomming a theocracy. Most christians wouldn't let that happen.

[Taverner]

21. Not only that, the only Bible verse she's ever quoted was Matthew 6:6

Which, as a heathen, makes me overjoyed.

[Captain Hilts]

8. I've met a couple of complete NON fans who ended up working with her and liking her enormously.

ER: I was a Republican too!

[Beacool]

20. Yes, Hillary is very human.

I remember a quote from Time magazine when Bill was running against Dole and they had an article on Hillary and Liddy Dole. Liddy was described as the iron fist in a velvet glove and Hillary as the iron glove in a velvet fist. I thought at the time that it was a very apt description.

Hillary may come off as brash and in your face on occasion, but that's her public persona. It's her shield to protect herself from the constant attacks that have come from all sides since she entered public life. In private she is a loyal friend, has a sharp, wicked sense of humor and laughs easily. She can be a tough boss because she demands excellence, but she's also the one who will call them on their birthday, plays matchmaker for her staffers (may they be gay or straight), finds the best specialist in the field for them or a loved one if confronted with a serious illness and will give people a pat on their back for a job well done.

Hillary is one terrific person, those who bash her on a personal level just don't know the woman behind the public persona.

:-)

[Taverner]

22. Let me put it this way - she would be the perfect boss

And I am expecting some synergy with Obama that will blow all of us away

[Beacool]

24. I think that they'll get along just fine.

They are two highly intelligent people who respect each other and their respective talents. It will turn out to be a good collaboration, despite the naysayers in the media and the LW blogs.

[rvablue]

25. Kick for the first hand impression ........... AND........I'm envious! n/t

[H2O Man]

26. I've met her twice.

I found her to be a human being, also.

[Deja Q]

31. She is a deserved choice for the role of Secretary of State

I don't care what her religion is, but with foreign policy issues she's been quite astute.

I too voted Obama; he has the more diplomatic touch -- which is a key trait of ANY position of leadership. Especially a senior position.

And he has shown that where he is uncertain in, he will find competent people.

He knows there are issues and that, for many of them, there are no quick solutions to be found.

He is worthy of everyone's respect and support until he's proven otherwise. I know many Republicans, and even have heard a couple of dipshit radio morning show disc jockeys say the same thing.

If many Republicans are willing to give a Democrat a chance, why the hell are so many on DU shoving big sticks up their butts in preemptive worry, given that President-Elect Obama won't be able to do anything until January 2009?!