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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:53 PM
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Is The Automaker Bailout A Blue Collar vs. White Collar Thing?
I get the feeling it is. If I am wrong, please let me know.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:55 PM
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1. Oh, yes. Most definitely. Union-busting, too.
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Nightflurry Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:56 PM
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2. Yep
If you where a suit and tie to work and shower before hand you get trillions of dollars with no strings attached without so much as a second thought.

If you work for a living and shower after work you can't even get 1% of that with terms and 5% interest.


I tell you, if the Big 3 were based in California we wouldn't even be having this debate, I think.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:57 PM
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3. yes a class war whoopie
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:59 PM
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4. nope. It is just another bailout for the rich.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:02 PM
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5. Yes because the white collars declared war on the blue.
Blamed them for their problems so they could bet their multi million dollar bonus.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:32 PM
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6. I think it's a 'politicians are more in bed with banks' thing.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:38 PM
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7. No. The banks came to Congress before the election.
The automakers came after the election. Congress went along with the bank bail-out because they didn't want it to be too much of an election issue. The Republicans would have pushed the economy into a disaster and then blamed Congress. The automakers will probably get the money, but they at least have to tell Congress what they will do with it.

Also, the banks may not get off easy for having pulled that fast one on the bail-outs. I remember Nancy Pelosi talking about possible claw-backs when Congress reconvenes.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:39 PM
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8. No, but that is how it is being framed. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:41 PM
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9. Yep, it is
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:49 PM
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10. of course it is
worse there`s people here that think it`s ok to get rid of the gm,ford.and chrysler in the united states. i guess they want to experience a real depression in this country when the last manufacturing business goes overseas.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:59 PM
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12. thats slightly overstated
theres more manufacturing in the US than the big 3.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:52 PM
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11. It's amazing to me that when the bailout of Wall Street
was the topic, most politicians fell all over themselves to pass a bill with virtually no strings attached and no agreement on a payback (and we now know they have no idea where the money has gone so far). The automakers ask for a loan, A LOAN, and all of a sudden every politician is concerned about a detailed plan on how the money will be spent, worried about how much the workers make (and yes, the CEO's too, like the Wall Street boys aren't pulling down even more money for a bigger fuck up). I guess a white collar is more important because they contribute to campaigns....
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 07:36 AM
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13. I Think You Hit The Nail On The Head (nt)
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 08:05 AM
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15. I'm asking anybody I can: How does the CEO of Citibank travel from place to place?
:shrug:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 07:58 AM
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14. 100%. It's also regional bigotry, with the South and West teaming up against the Rustbelt. nt
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