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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 08:49 AM Original message |
Great Op Ed by BIll Ayers |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Excellent! I was hoping he would come out with his thoughts. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Rethugs are obsessed with the anti-Vietnam war |
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SalmonChantedEvening (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. He did the difficult, yet honorable thing. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Anytime |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Ayers is NOT honorable. He is a revolting egotistical beast . |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 06:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. You just lost my respect |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I marched against the Vietnam war! I was one of those people who |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. I like. He deserves credit for putting his life .... |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You said: But it was *nothing* compared to what the US gov't was doing to SE ASIA. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And they continue to rinse, repeat, recycle |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. The Problem is that all of those people that pushed the Vietnam |
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crazylikafox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. agreed |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Great article, Malaise! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Pedro mentioned it on WJ this morning |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. What a thoughtful and well writtten piece. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Bill Ayers was a guest on "This Is Hell" this morning. He was great. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Thanks I'd love to hear him |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. He's got a great speaking voice |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. He's still an ass. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. How old are you? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. 58. And his narcissistic adventurism did more to prolong the war than to stop it. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. And you know this how? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I know people spent an awful lot of time talking about assholes with bombs instead of |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. well that proves it |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. There were half a million people marching in Washington before Ayers built his first bomb. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. And there were huge nationwide protests after. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The WUO was a fringe, at best, to the antiwar movement. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Ah well then, as a fringe it had little or no effect. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. Amen. You are absolutely spot on! |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Correct. It de-legitimized the anti-war movement. nt |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Correct. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. right |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I parachuted into Hanoi with a satchel of signed petitions. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Or not. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. An ass that set off explosives. NOT cool. nt |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. An ass who's a distinguished professor. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. He helped de-legitimize the anti-war movement. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. And that is the truth. He is no "hero" for sure. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Well, somebody is an ass. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Yep. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. Must read! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. That's a great op-ed |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I like his timing |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. You have got to be kidding. Ayers really is no saint. He is married to Bernadine Dohrn who has |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. That's what - guilt by two degrees of separation?? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I agree with your point about the "smear by association" but Ayers deserves no respect |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Oh, they should only report the lies of the Republicans. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Ayers isn't a foriegn "leader" He is a narcissitic maniac.Of course they can "report" on anything. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. The Republicans did not make Ayers, but they used Ayers... |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. At the risk of having to don a flamesuit, I agree with you, Saracat. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Obviously I agree.I also think it was opportunistic of Ayers to do any kind of an OPED. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I agree (n/t)(So, she doesn't have an active license ... interesting). |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. not all justified resistance is non-violent. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-08-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I couldn't disagree more. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. I feared he would be murdered by a hysterical Palinite. Thank God he was not. nt |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
45. yawn. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. He was "away." He was doing his thing when the Republicans made him an issue. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. this article absolutely proves how compllicit our media is. no one sought the truth about ayers. |
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