Well, Wright resurfaces - calls Hasselback "that dumb broad" & Obama made a '"bad decision" by

[Pirate Smile]

distancing himself from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his church, Wright said in a sermon Sunday — but that’s OK.' He (Obama) is also "hanging out with people giving him "bad advice."'

Wright: Obama made 'bad' choice to distance self, but it's ok

BY MAUREEN O’DONNELL Staff Reporter
President-elect Barack Obama made a "bad decision" by distancing himself from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his church, Wright said in a sermon Sunday — but that’s OK.

"He’s still my child," Wright said in a sermon in which he expressed pride in Obama’s longtime association with Trinity United Church of Christ.
His talk was spiced with Wright’s trademark blend of history lesson, mimicry, and — depending on your point of view — insults, or telling it like it is.

This time the object of his contempt seemed to be Elizabeth Hasselbeck of The View, whom — while not saying her name — twice referred to as a "broad," including once as "that dumb broad."

Wright, speaking on the church’s 47-year anniversary, said he was proud of "the only church that produced the first and only African-American president in the 211-year history of the United States. No other church can say that.
"The hatred of the media and the haters in politics may have caused him to distance himself from us, but the love of Christ will never allow me to distance myself from him," Wright said of Obama. "Hey, hey, hey. I can no more disown him than I can disown any other child of mine makes bad decisions. He made a bad decision but he’s still my child. I am the old uncle."

And an old uncle cannot turn his back on his nephew, Wright said, even when the nephew is hanging out with people giving him "bad advice."
Wright retired from Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ this year but was invited back to speak on the church’s anniversary.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318979,wright-obama-bad-decision-120808.article

I'm sure Elizabeth will be in fine form tomorrow.

[Captain Hilts]

1. How Obama sat through 20 years of this I do not know. Oprah could take it only for two. nt

[polichick]

3. How often did he really attend services?

[Captain Hilts]

6. Evidently nearly weekly. Anyone have details on that?

[Pirate Smile]

8. I have a feeling it was sporadic. Obama has been pretty damn busy for a long time. He had three

jobs before he won his Senate seat in 2004 - one of which was out of town.

[yardwork]

34. Did Wright give sermons every week?

[Kutjara]

2. Another fifteen-minuter desperately trying to extend...

...his allotted portion of fame. Keep at it, Rev. Wright, and soon you'll be the Billy Carter of the Obama administration.

[babylonsister]

7. My thoughts exactly. nt

[malaise]

4. I love Rev Wright

and dumb is a kind word for Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

[boozepusher]

14. I guess you also approve the use of the term "broad" ?

[emilyg]

15. You want me to call you "broad"?

[malaise]

30. As long as you don't add dumb to it

since it wouldn't be true.

[TahitiNut]

27. I'd like to know him.

He's a fascinating character ... decent human being.

[camera obscura]

5. ...

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

9. How do you spell Narcissism?

W r i g h t .

[MrSlayer]

10. Not PC but absolutely true.

Wright knows of what he speaks.

[firedupdem]

11. He needs to stfu...

He loves attention....also, I doubt his sermons were of this variety when Obama attended his church. Obama is not a dummy. Also, how do they know who he was talking about if he never said her name?...hasselbeck is a dumb broad but there are a few more out there he could have been referring to.

[JVS]

12. Score two for the Rev. Hasselback is dumb, and Obama's selections of advisors is unimpressive.

Of course, the things from Obama's mouth rather than his surrounding people lately have been quite good

[madmom]

13. So they assume because he said "dumb broad" he meant

elizatwit? I can see that! LOL

[theoldman]

16. I still think that Wright was right most of the time.

Years from now the two will get together again when Obama has matured a little more and Wright has mellowed a little more. I give it five to ten years. By then bygones will be bygones.

[carpe diem]

17. i don't think Obama is the one showing...

immaturity here...

[CreekDog]

28. Obama is ages more mature and wise than Rev. Wright

at 47 than Wright is at 67.

anyone who doubts Obama's maturity should look at how he responded when the kitchen sink was being thrown at him, how he handled it when during the leadup to the convention when the drama regarding the Clinton's participation was building. I recall that the so called "immature" Obama when asked about what Bill Clinton was going to say at his convention speech said, "President Clinton can say whatever he wants..."

Furthermore, about Obama's maturity, I recall when McCain "suspended" his campaign, many Democrats, mostly older than Obama implored Obama to suspend his campaign or he wouldn't look statesmanlike. Obama immaturely thought running his campaign required him to both keep campaigning and be part of the solution to help the financial crisis. What was the mature option at that time? Who took it?

I think Obama's been the most mature politician I've seen in ages, if not ever. I'm glad he's only 47 and we'll have his wisdom for a long while.

[Mike Daniels]

31. They'll get back together once Obama is no longer a politician

Otherwise it will be established that Obama strictly separated himself from Wright for political convenience.

[Titus Andronicus]

18. There is no way that Wright was like this when Obama attended.

None. He may be acquiring Alzheimer's, anyone know?

[jbnow]

33. You're right that the Wright we have heard is not the Wright Obama

heard over the years.
Obama both wrote and said that but the public and press must have assumed he was lying. Here are some reasons I know he was not.
'm sure many news organizations did the same thing that Time Magazine did when the selected clips came out and were played over and over. They got copies of years and years of old sermons and they go way back. (Obama got copies sent to him when he was at Harvard in the 80's, audio tapes go that far back).
Time magazine like who knows how many others wanted to find more hot excerpts. Notice we never heard a bunch of new clips and you know we would have if they had found more controversy.
Time's Jay Carney was on "This Week" on 3-23 and George asked him when we'd hear more on Wright. Carney talked about the a group of Time reporters going through the years of tapes but that they hadn't found anything else very controversial so there probably wouldn't be any more story.

Cause God knows it wouldn't be a story if they told the reality...that his sermons were not racist or anti-American or hateful. You wouldn't want people to not have cause to say "How could Obama listen to that hate for 20 years". You wouldn't want to say anything that might slow the hate mail or threats against the church and Dr. Rev Wright, the ex-marine with 3 presidential commendations, a PhD, an author....a man who built up a church from a few dozen people to a church of thousands who had a huge outreach program helping AIDS patients, the elderly, jib placement, tutoring, the hungry and on and on, who insisted on staying in the city when most churches moved to the suburbs. Oh no, can't ruin a hot distorted story.

So what were his sermons like? Well on the same "This Week" Cynthia Tucker of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution told George on that her brother and his friends who go there have said that it’s a pretty mainstream conventional church, even conservative, a lot about responsibility...
(George's response? Change the subject)

Tamaron Hall of MSNBC told Chris Matthews that it's one of two churches you're encouraged to go to when you move there., that she never heard that kind of language and she checked with more than a dozen people who regularly attend there and they didn't hear that language and it shocked them.
(Matthew's response? Said it was hard to believe.)

Flavia Colgan, a columnist, told Larry King that a lot of local reporters from the Chicago papers and many other members of the church were shocked by the clips of Wright because they said "this is not the pastor that we knew."
(King's response? He snapped at her that she didn't answer the question, He'd asked her if Wright was a bump in the road or going to linger and cause more harm)

Those are just a few examples. Many tried bringing the truth up once or twice on various shows but were always ignored or criticized. I never heard it lead to any dialogue which it surely should have. By the way when Jay Carney told George no more Wright story George didn't say anything then either, he just looked so sad. It did not stop him from attacking Obama on Wright on the ABC debate a few weeks later though.

[Titus Andronicus]

37. How do you explain the hate displayed by the posters here?

[deaniac21]

38. You can look at Trinity's website and quickly see that you are

wrong.

[cali]

19. Wright is a pitiful excuse for a man, a friend and a pastor. Fuck him.

[ConsAreLiars]

21. Almost everyone with the first name of Reverand is an ass and a huckster. But Wright far less

than most. Compared to Falwell and Dobson and that crowd, he is a fucking saint. But, of course, you will disagree, since dissing progressives gives you far more "oohs" and "ahhs" and "oh mys" than fighting fascists.

(edit slightly)

[cali]

23. I am a progressive, dear. Suck on that.

I vote progressive and I've worked on progressive and liberal causes and issues for years and years. And I'm judging Wright, not on his politics, but on who he's shown himself to be- a fucking asshole and nutcase and grade A narcissist. Oh, and no, dear, not every person who's a clergy person is a charlatan. Think Bill Coffin- if you even have a fucking clue as to who that is.

[ConsAreLiars]

24. Oh certainly.

William Sloan Coffin, Father Berrigan, Father Ray Bourgeois... There are exceptions. I would put Wright closer to them than you would. They are all religiously insane, but some fight for us and some against us. Wright fights for us. You fight against him. Where does that put you.

[Dreamer Tatum]

22. I never met one man of any cloth who referred to any woman that way

so he's a complete and utter joke in my book.

He's also a pariah in the eyes of the Obama Administration, which is a good thing.

[Blue_Tires]

20. lol...who still uses "broad"???

[Quantess]

25. LOL,

I sometimes use it to be satirical. It just sounds funny in the 21st century.

[PBS Poll-435]

26. Would the "Pussycat Dolls" be considered broadband?

:dunce:

[Kitty Herder]

29. I usually take offense when someone uses the term "dumb broad"

to describe anyone, but I'll make an exception for Elizabeth Hasselback. Does that make me a hypocrite?

[johnlucas]

32. I like Rev. Wright

He's gonna be one to keep Barack honest.
The Republicans were right on one thing. There's no way in hell this guy could have attended this church for all of those years without being in allegiance to the philosophy spoken in there. 20 years!

That church IS Rev. Jeremiah Wright. He built it up from the ground up and when agnostic/unreligious Barack Obama came to Chicago he became a Christian after joining Wright's church. The Rev. married him and his wife, baptized his children, and even inspired the title of one of his best-selling books. Barack himself said that Wright was like family to him and the Rev. was part of his African-American Religious Leadership Committee.

They're not clones but they agree on a lot of issues I guarantee you. Else Barack would not have been a part of that church for so long.

I had severe misgivings about Barack after he disassociated himself from Wright in late April. I thought he struck a good balance between political reality and actual reality with his response about Wright in March. The "More Perfect Union" speech. It showed courage balls to stand by his people despite the controversy. Really made me feel he would be different from all the mealy mouthed politicians out there. Really lent credence to his honesty and freshness. The late April response was cowardly and felt false. I didn't believe a word that came out of his mouth. It wouldn't be long after that (June time) that his "march to the center" rang similarly to me and made not want to support him. This feeling wouldn't change until the Democratic National Convention with the sight of the Obama family on stage and seeing how much hope people I talked to had about his presidency. I reserved my misgivings looking toward the barrier he would break which could open up the Presidency to people of all backgrounds.

And to this day I'm of two minds about Barack Obama. I still believe that kid from Hawaii who went a city he never knew to help poor folks exists in the now-President but I also believe the principles he sold in the quest to ascend politically has made that kid a figure of a distant past.
Reverend Wright still sees that community organizing young man who wanted to do right by people and for that purpose he will speak out and remind Barack of the real reason he got into politics. To remind Obama that those strategic political maneuvers and positions can't get too far from this source else he becomes another Nancy Pelosi or any other useless politician who forgot what the whole shebang was about.

I wish Wright wouldn't use insults sometimes in his expression but there's no denying that the guy is owned by no man and therefore can speak his mind freely. That he can speak truth to power without reserve, without compromise. Hasselbeck IS dumb and proves it every day on the air. Some fool from Survivor gets to be taken seriously as a panelist on a famous TV forum? Barbara Walters needed a ratings grabber and that explains all of that.

I hope Wright continues to speak up because Progressives are right to be concerned about Obama's choices with his forming administration. A lot of those who can't stand Rev. Wright will come to agree with what he says should Barack betray who brought him to the dance. We don't want Clinton II. To us, Hope & Change ain't just campaign slogans. We're gonna make him live up to those lofty ideals. Like Rev. Wright, we simply have that Audacity.

John Lucas

[Celeborn Skywalker]

35. Good for him!

Fuck that whore, Hasselbeck.

[acmavm]

36. Rev. Wright needs to get over himself. Isn't it pride that 'goeth

before a fall' or whatever. This guy is full of it.