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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:16 PM
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What will rethugs get out of blocking the auto loan? They have my
anger and wrath at further tanking of the economy and not supporting American workers. Won't people be angry that they're not willing to support Americans, union workers or otherwise? And there are a lot of union workers. And Americans.

What's in it for them long-term?
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:17 PM
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1. Lobbyist money from
foreign automakers? :argh:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:23 PM
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8. Ding, ding ding! You win. Per CNN last year:
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 11:24 PM by Jennicut
South provides global appeal for foreign auto makers

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (CNN) -- Detroit, Michigan, is often thought of as the automaker capital of the country, but increasingly, foreign auto plants are heading south, to a region known for more than its charm.


Toyota's plant in Georgetown, Kentucky, is as big as 156 football fields.
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Almost every foreign auto factory that's opened since the '90s has sprouted below the Mason-Dixon Line. Two of the three auto plants under construction also are in the South.

Plants typically establish their roots in what is known as the auto corridor -- a roughly 200-mile-wide stretch that runs from Michigan to Alabama.

"The northern end is more heavily dominated by the traditional Detroit-base assemblers and their supplier base, and then the foreign automakers and their supplier base tend to pull a little further south," said Thomas Klier, a senior economist with the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago who specializes in the auto industry. Check out auto plants across the corridor »

So what's behind the South's charm? It has a lot to do with the people, experts say.

"If you don't have people, you don't have economic development," said Michael Randle, president and publisher of Southern Business & Development. "People drive economic development and that's why the South has gone from being dirt poor 50 years ago to leading this country's economy."

The South's population is growing much faster than the Midwest, which is home to the Big Three: Chrysler, Ford and GM. Between 2000 and 2030, the South's population is expected to increase by about 43 percent, while less than 10 percent growth is expected in the Midwest, according the U.S. Census Bureau. See how the United States is expected to grow »

But it's not just the quantity of the people that matters. The quality of the work force was a big factor in Toyota's recent decision to build a plant near Tupelo, Mississippi, according Dennis Cuneo, formerly Toyota's senior vice president and now an adviser to the company. Video Watch how Toyota hopefuls are already preparing for jobs »

Northern Mississippi has been hit hard by the closing of furniture factories, leaving highly skilled workers looking for jobs. Those workers have the mentality the automobile makers want, Randle said. If it's broken, they are going to fix it, he said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/11/01/auto.south/index.html


That is why the old Southern Rethug boys are blocking the bailout.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:18 PM
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2. They get to flog their dongs over the fact that they busted the UAW.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:20 PM
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5. I don't even understand why that would be a positive.
Ironic that DeMint said if the bill passed, there'd be riots. That's a bunch of bull, but I'm thinking there are going to be lots of angry people because it didn't pass.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:18 PM
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3. I'll bet that some of the workers were "Reagan Democrats"...
a lot of good that did them. The Republicans throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:20 PM
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4. Hopefully, some heinous Spanish Inquisition type shit and lots of hard labor
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:20 PM
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6. rethugs will get the 'obama depression' and the official death of the.........
american middle class. Hopefully the bitter miserable bastards will never be elected again.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:21 PM
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7. They hobble a recovery by the Obama team by making them address
the lost of several million jobs and the taxes from those jobs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:24 PM
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9. Aw jeeze. I pray someone out there will make this a big, fat
object of attention. Someone in the media would be nice.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:28 PM
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10. Are you talking about the Jackals of Journalism? Doing a real
piece on the price Americans will pay when the Big 3 go under? Naw, easier to sit in your nice, warm office and get you news copy off the fax.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:38 PM
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11. I hear you. I'm equally disgusted. nt
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:48 AM
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14. Bingo.
I think it is a Rovian edict.

This is going to be a long game of chess.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:40 PM
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12. They satisfy their ideological insanity and hate for Organized Labor, nothing more.
But they just signed the death warrant of the GOP.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:03 AM
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13. Thank you. I know this cannot be good for the GOP, so why would
they risk it when they, for the most part, just got booted out of office? Makes no sense to me.

Try something different that will piss off the populace even more?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:52 AM
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15. I'd like to see reps from the Northeast, Midwest and West Coast cut off money
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 12:52 AM by depakid
for projects in their states, and re-direct it elsewhere.

That's fair enough, seeing as how they want to be "rugged indivdualists" and all.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 01:46 AM
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16. I can't even fathom that happening. I think the lawmakers should
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 01:47 AM by babylonsister
be punished somehow, not the states.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 02:36 AM
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17. Lawmakers are representatives of the states
when they stop bringing home the pork, then, and only then- will voters turn them out.

On the other hand, when they get tons of pork- they stay for decades (even if they were segragationists, or turn on their party ala Robert Byrd and the "gang of 14"- or are obviously corrupt, like Ted Stevens, who came close to being re-elected despite a felony conviction).

Nope- in a nation of we the people, citizens in states that send the irrational, abusive and self-destructive likes of Inhofe (or Coburn) to Washington- ought to be held accountable for their decisions.

Just as anyone in the corporate world should be.




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