GET RID OF HARRY RIED!!

[realitythink]

I am so angry at this guy right now I could puke and am starting to think he is a republican mole. Why is the man allowed to continue as the majority leader? His closing speech tonight was lame and disheartening. It's time to replace him with someone else.. Boxer, Feingold, Kerry, Durbin. GET RID OF HARRY!!!

[Sebass1271]

1. Can we do something? Can we launch a campaign against him?

let's call finegold and pelosi now.

[CreekDog]

2. There's a nice way of kicking ass and there's a mean way

he's not good at either. :banghead:

could we please get someone who can kick ass? Obama can and does in his own way.

[Truth2Tell]

3. OK, one more futile recommendation for this sentiment.

[realitythink]

4. Post your opinion about Reid at

www.change.gov

Tell Obama to tell Harry it's time for someone else to give it a try.

[democrattotheend]

5. If you are talking about the fact that he changed his vote to no

He did that for procedural reasons, to give them the option to reconsider the vote later. A failed motion can only be reconsidered if someone who voted against it moves to reconsider.

[realitythink]

7. No

That's not what I'm referring to. I'm am just sick and tired of his failed leadership over and over again for two fucking years. This guy is not an effective leader and he's been played by, what is in reality, a weak and beaten minority. He is an ineffective majority leader and he has proven his ineffectiveness. He needs to step aside before the next session of congress.

[TreasonousBastard]

19. Just a note to say some of us appreciate...

the occasional rational post showing some knowledge of how things work in the real world.

[acmavm]

27. Interesting. So in your world Reid is an 'effective' leader? No matter what

he did on this particular issue, you defend the man? He sure as shit could have done more. Maybe if he watched the criminals in the other party he would see how its done. They can block everything dems want to do with a minority of votes. We can't do shit in either the House or Senate with a MAJORITY, but the repubics can tie the entire country up while being in the MINORITY.

He and Pelosi are disgusting specimens of political garbage who might be telling you they're democrats, but they've done every fucking thing to promote the corporate agenda since they hit Washington, D.C.

[TreasonousBastard]

39. Kindly back that up with specific examples...

and showing your understanding of--

just what the Whip is supposed to be doing during all this

how the Democratic "majority" is a minority until next year

and, for extra points, show us when and how any Senate, much less an evenly divided one, ever successfully battled with an opposition President.

[acmavm]

40. BOTH have 49 BUT we (supposedly) have the two indies

who vote with us (Sanders and Liebermann).

Regardless, I stand by what I said.

Let me ask you, what has that old bag of shit ever done right?

[Dragonfli]

6. My "favorite" is what I call his "virtual" filibuster rule -

Where he lets them basically just say the word filibuster and calls it a done deal.
I guess it would be impolite in his eyes to make them actually filibuster and stand at the fucking podium spouting their shit for days on end.

What an ineffective ass, I think you may be correct about your mole theory.

edited to add RECOMMENDED

[realitythink]

9. And now the Asian markets are plummeting

My 5th grade son could have predicted that. I mean really what is with these people? It looks like they want this to happen. Then we can all be earning eight dollars an hour while they sit high up on their perches.

Meanwhile Specter is complaining right now how they've been sitting there for two days on their well padded asses working on this. Can you believe these fuckers?

I hate them.

[Dragonfli]

11. Those gilded truth fuckers have earned that hatred - nt

[ROakes1019]

8. Why?

I don't understand all the fury at Harry Reid. What more could he possibly have done? There are some Repubs that want to bust the unions so badly that they'll do anything, even plunge the stock market and untimately the economy into depression. Please watch the Senate at work and see what Harry Reid does before you stir up all this misplaced anger at a man who is doing his best.

[realitythink]

10. He could take names and kick ass

This man is going to be in charge with at least 57 Senators in a month. He is there to twist arms and make deals. Christ Almighty he is the guy with all the power. Did you see his speech tonight? It was pathetic.

[ROakes1019]

12. No

His speech was not pathetic. Harry Reid is soft-spoken but that doesn't mean he isn't tough. Now Specter is up trying to blame the Dems for the failure of cloture. You don't get up on the Senate floor and rant and rave, if that's what you expected of Reid. That sort of stuff goes in the House but not the Senate. Most of what happens in the Senate goes on behind the scenes. We get only a glimpse of all the negotiating that goes on.

[realitythink]

15. And that is the problem

He is clearly ineffective and the record now shows it. We do not need a "soft-spoken" man running the show. He is a failure.

[TreasonousBastard]

21. Kindly define "ineffective." He doesn't have a majority yet and...

a few of his own crew are not the sort to blindly follow an ideology, as are the opposition.

Besides, no Congress has ever been able to win any more than the ocassional battle with even a weak President.

[JackRiddler]

35. He doesn't have a majority yet? (!)

That's interesting. Where do majorities start for Democrats, at 91/100?

[MiniMe]

36. What Dems are you counting in the majority?

Reid currently has 48 dems since Obama resigned his seat, plus 2 independents. That is 50 senators, not a big majority. Kennedy is still out ill, Kerry is overseas at the global warming conference, so for this vote he had a total of 48 if all the dems voted Yes, 46 dems and 2 independents. That means even if every dem voted yes, 12 repubs would have had to vote yes also to get to 60. The big majority won't come until January.

I don't know why the Montana Senators voted No, you would have to ask them. And I don't know why Blance Lincoln did either. We are democrats because we don't think that everybody in the party has to be in lockstep with everybody else, that is why you want more than a razor thin majority.

I'm not saying that I like Reid in the leadership position, I do wish it was somebody else. But in this case, he didn't control enough votes.

[defendandprotect]

43. Note that GOP controls whether they have majority or handful ....

Seemingly we can do nothing to overcome them---!!!

[depakid]

24. Reid is all bark and no bite.

He lacks both credibility and respect- mainly because he's caved (or apologized) so many times that no one on either side of the aisle fears the consequences of crossing him- which in realpolitik, is a definition for pathetic.

[progressoid]

29. And his bark is pretty weak lately. n/t

[depakid]

33. Makes one wonder what it's going to take

For all anyone knows, Mr. Reid is a nice fellow in person- but the objective record shows he's not up to the job at hand.

Surely there's a face saving way to nudge him out.

:shrug:

[TreasonousBastard]

20. Hmmm... and the not so rational.

[babylonsister]

22. You are right. Many circumstances lead to tonight's vote. nt

[rvablue]

13. From his strange and bizzare ditty on CSPAN tonight I think that we've seen the last

of Majority Leader Reid.

All he did was focus on staff and the Capitol police and almost broke into tears.

I think he knows his days are numbered.

If not, why in the hell was he blubbering over them, they're all still going to have jobs after the New Year.

It was really strange and really bizarre....then again, I don't watch him much live on the floor and maybe this is normal.

[defendandprotect]

44. I think you captured Reid quite aptly ...

Long ago I watched as Sen. George Mitchell turned the Democratic majority

Senate over to Sen. Bob Dole. The Democrats were co-opted long, long ago.

Daschle was frightened by the GOP war on him -- demonized him as "Satan"....

And I didn't blame him -- it works well for the GOP, whichever technique they're

using at the time. The right doesn't come to power except by violence, intimidation

and vote stealing.

[medeak]

14. He's one of the really good guys in congress

there are few who are more ethical than him. He's made me angry but in the long run he's has shown a depth of ethics I don't see in any one else.

[realitythink]

16. Nice guys finish last.

He is not a leader. I'm am sick to death of these nice guy dems that get their ass kicked by these conniving and devious fascists that they're up against.

[medeak]

45. he punched out father-in-law. no pussy here

when dating his wife and her Dad disapproved he knocked the guy out. My Mom taught him in high school...know him very well and don't allow his mild demeaner fool you.

[snake in the grass]

26. Obama has ethics...

...and is still able to play hardball in Washington. Reid is a despicable coward and the sooner he is gone the better. The same goes for Pelosi. For the last two years these two have been complicit in the Bush crimes.

[spanone]

32. he's an ineffective leader AT BEST

[Marr]

46. He's either the world's biggest wimp, the world's biggest idiot, or

his agenda is the same as that of the Republicans. I don't think he's a wimp or an idiot.

[Birthmark]

17. Agreed. Harry has got to go

[TheKentuckian]

18. Ethics aren't keeping the Constitution, keeping Americans gainfully working, or promoting freedom

So, fuck Harry's amazing ethics very much. What has he done that's so saint like anyway? How did he make the lives of average Americans better?

REID FUCKING SUCKS!

[Doremus]

23. Let's just say he's not the best and brightest.

There are others who could do the job much better.

Why should we settle for mediocrity? It makes positively no sense.

How wonderful it would be to have a senate leader with passion and courage.

[backscatter712]

25. There's a reason why Democrats are stereotyped as effete, milquetoast pantywaists...

and his name is Harry Reid.

Reid, in fact, has the same job that Alan Colmes had until recently - that of professional punching bag. The truth is that he only pretends to be on our side, then deliberately takes a dive when it comes time to land the heavy blows, all the time looking like a sniveling wuss. His job, as was Colmes' job, is to be bitchslapped - to be the professional beaten spouse as the Republicans smack him down over and over again, to make the entire left-side of the aisle look like wusses. His sole purpose is to make himself, and all Democrats by extension, an object of contempt.

I'll be damned glad when that professional pantywaist gets replaced by someone who actually does fight for our side.

[Captain Hilts]

28. I couldn't agree more. I'd hoped this was where Clinton would end up with Barney Frank as speaker!

[LynneSin]

30. whoever replaces him will become Public Enemy #1 here at DU

trust me - that's the job of being majority leader.

[onenote]

42. yep.

[Mira]

31. I sigh and I Kick and Recommend

[bertman]

34. YEAH. And while we're at it let's get rid of Harry REID too.

[MiniMe]

37. Reid only had control of 48 votes, he needed 12 repubs to come over to pass this

Reid currently has 48 dems since Obama resigned his seat, plus 2 independents. That is 50 senators, not exactly a big majority. Kennedy is still out ill, Kerry is overseas at the global warming conference, so for this vote he had a total of 48 if all the dems voted Yes, 46 dems and 2 independents. That means even if every dem voted yes, 12 repubs would have had to vote yes also to get to 60. The big majority won't come until January.

I don't know why the Montana Senators voted No, you would have to ask them. And I don't know why Blance Lincoln did either. We are democrats because we don't think that everybody in the party has to be in lockstep with everybody else, that is why you want more than a razor thin majority.

I'm not saying that I like Reid in the leadership position, I do wish it was somebody else. But in this case, he didn't control enough votes.

[Phred42]

38. Reid & Pelosi both need to be replaced

THAT would be change I could believe in.

[glinda]

41. Someone needs a major backbone transplant

Not sure what the problem is but Bush and some Republicans should be stopped from now until he leaves office. There is a huge failure some where along the line. Huge.

[Phred42]

47. Exactly - It's hte same reasoning they are using to STOP Blago right NOW in ILLINOIS

The Illinois Dems and AG figured this out - but it's too much for Pelosi & Reid?! Even with considerable more serious consequences

[wildbilln864]

48. here, here!

too late to rec this thread. sorry I missed it in time. :banghead:

[Phred42]

49. Agree - BUT IT"S NOT JUST REID!

It's also PELOSI and all of the other Dem "leadership" in BOTH Houses.

It's the Blue Dogs and DLC too - you know..... The OTHER Republicans

The Dems have a huge mess on their hands.