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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:33 PM
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Auto-Savvy People: What was AMC? Was that owned by one of the big three?
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 04:34 PM by Mike 03
Some of these great threads about cars are taking me way back down memory lane to my very first car, handed down to me from my dad when I moved off the college: a 1976 AMC Pacer. Yes, I am completely aware that for many people that car was a laughingstock, but I tell you I LOVED THAT CAR, and it served me for almost four years, including two Summers of doing nothing but driving all over Los Angeles five days a week delivering and picking up film. As I said in another thread, it really broke my heart when I found out that my father had sold it and was "upgrading" me to a car my grandparents had owned.

I know that AMC no longer exists, and I supposed I should research this, but sentimentality just got the better of me. I wonder what became of AMC and it would be interesting to know if that was a brand by GM, Ford or Chrysler or what it was. I was a teenager at the time and not very much of a car person.

Anyway, what's so damned funny/bad about the Pacer? I thought it was the cat's meow.

EDITED for spellcheck "savvy"
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:35 PM
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1. Man, NOTHING would kill a Hornet. AMC General was an offshoot of Rambler, I think...
and somehow related to Jeep.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:21 PM
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30. My first car was a '77 AMC Hornet station wagon
it was a tank with lots of bells and whistles

had a great factory radio too
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:03 PM
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33. Okay, YOU brought up the radio, the Hornet 'sportabout' near and dear to me...
was a '71 and had a drive-in movie theatre speaker for the radio!!!!! A radio that included European-style long wave!!!
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:27 PM
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37. mine had great reception
FM stereo, man!

It had factory tinted windows too. A little old lady had owned it. It was a cream puff when I got it.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:53 PM
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38. Isiah Thomas drove one all through his years at Indiana U. nt
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:35 PM
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2. Here's the history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Motors


American Motors Corporation (AMC) was an American automobile company formed on January 14, 1954 by the merger of the Nash-Kelvinator Corporation and the Hudson Motor Car Company. At the time, it was the largest corporate merger in U.S. history, valued at US$198 million ($1.44 billion in 2006 dollars). When declining sales and the competitiveness of the United States auto market forced AMC to seek a partner in the late 1970s, the company formed an alliance with France's Renault. This lasted until March 2, 1987, when the Chrysler Corporation purchased AMC. Use of the AMC and Renault brand names ceased in the United States. The Jeep line continued; also some Eagle models.

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:37 PM
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6. Whoa, weird! Thank you, but I didn't expect that. I just assumed it had to be
one of the big three.

Sheesh, this is interesting.

Thanks for the link!

I wonder if they were a union friendly manufacturer?
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:46 PM
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11. In 1970, AMC also acquired Kaiser-Jeep
Which is how the Jeep brand eventually became part of Chrysler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willys-Overland
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:35 PM
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3. don't know...I looked all over the web and couldn't find anything. nt.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:36 PM
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4. It was in Wikipedia
All I did was Google it. Not hard to find at all.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:36 PM
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5. whats that....I was using alta vista. nt.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:40 PM
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7. What is bad about the pacer is that it was a small car that managed to get bad mileage and low speed
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:05 PM
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19. That's true. I had to fill it up every day when I was driving for a living.
But people made fun of how it looked, and I thought it looked very, very cool, like something out of "Logan's Run."

It had some issues, especially with the air system. What ultimately killed it was an exploding radiator. I wanted to fix it but my dad said, "No..., time to get rid of her."

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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:40 PM
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8. AMC Stood For American Motors Corp. nt
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:41 PM
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9. AMC was #4 of the Big 4,
before they became the Big 3.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:42 PM
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10. My mom owned a Hornet. The floor boards rusted out -
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 05:03 PM by sparosnare
you could see the ground through the floor. Damn thing kept going though; she drove it forever.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:52 PM
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13. That's the Moon Floor
Opposite of a sun roof.

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:56 PM
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16. My mom had a Nash Rambler
I remember when she learned how to drive when I was a kid (she grew up in New York and never had to drive before she married my dad and moved to Detroit). I also remember how cool we thought it was that the front seats folded all the way back and went flat.

I picture hers being smaller than this (maybe it was a two-door), but this was the closest I could find.



Another point of note: Mittens Romney's father was CEO of AMC before he was governor of Michigan.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:32 PM
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24. after college, I was looking for both a job and a cheap car . . .
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 05:33 PM by OneBlueSky
and by dad found someone selling an old Rambler Ambassador for a hundred bucks or so . . . used to be a high-end vehicle, but by the time I got it it had seen better days . . . still, the ride was smooth, and it never failed to start . . . I drove it for about a year before I could afford something a little more sensible . . .

it looked something like this . . .

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:34 PM
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25. I'm sorry, but that is one cool looking car.
Maybe I'm just in love with cars from the '50s. I remember the day my father pulled in the drive in a 1958 Edsel. I was 4 and the sight of that horse-collar grille scared me half to death. The car was only 2 years old, but had several rusted areas, a convertible hard top that didn't work, and an electric window motor that lay on the floor of the back seat as long as we had the car. It also had a push-button shifter that glowed green at night. We got hit broadside in that car, I was in the backseat and barely felt it. I do remember the sound of the crash and the big, metal moldings clanking to the pavement. What a tank.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:37 PM
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26. I love 50s cars, too
I had a piano teacher who had a '56 T-bird and I just loved looking at her car whenever she came to my house for my lessons.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:50 PM
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12. My grandfather had a Javelin -- AMC's muscle car
Very fast...

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:07 PM
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34. And then there was the AMX
I had a 69 390 AMX for a while..

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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:12 PM
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36. I had a '69 Javelin
That machine could MOVE like nobody's business.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:53 PM
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14. Mitt's daddy
Mitt's daddy was president of AMC back in the 50's and 60's.

Can we bring back Studebaker, Hudson and Packard while we're at it?


-90% jimmy
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:54 PM
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15. AMC was where the Romney dynasty started.

George Romney, Mitt's dad, made his fortune as CEO there. Then off to the national stage and the rest is history, we hope.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:06 PM
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20. No way, really?
Wow, I had no clue. That's one strike against AMC, I guess.

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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:07 PM
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21. Did AMC employ UAW people? Knowing what I know today, that is important
to me.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:13 PM
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22. Yes, AMC was unionized
But I wouldn't call it a "union friendly" company, since labor and capital have opposing interests.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:56 PM
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17. a Nash Rambler and a Nash American: my family's cars when I was a little kid
I always referred to the Rambler as the "bathtub" because that's what it looked like to me. The American was a weirdly shaped, oddly-colored (green and yellow, I recall) car that ended up with a hole in its floor that allowed me to watch the road go by beneath my feet.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:02 PM
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18. This might be closer to what my mom had
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 05:03 PM by SharonRB
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:30 PM
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23. That's a Nash Metropolitan...
Two of my uncles had a pair-one Aqua as above and the other Red and White two-toned. As an aside on disappearing brands, my grandfather had a garage in the 20's and his business card read that he was a "Whippet and Willys Knight" specialist...a later card identified him as a "Chevrolet and Willys Knight" specialist although both cards advertised "cement mixers overhauled".
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:39 PM
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28. That's what I thought, but it was labelled "Nash Rambler"
I love the Metropolitans. I picture my mom's car as being somewhere in between what I posted upthread and the Metro. I couldn't find a picture of what I'm envisioning, so maybe my memory is fault. After all, it was only about 50 years ago!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:39 PM
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27. My First Car Was a 1968 Rambler American
No comment on the quality. I abused it.

As far as AMC itself, they pulled a Studebaker.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:19 PM
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29. What no other Gremlin lovers? They were an amazing car! AMCs made some great cars...
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 09:21 PM by WePurrsevere
even Pacers. ;) It was a shame that Chrysler ditched most of the AMC models. :(

From what my DH said part of the problem the Pacer was that it was designed for a front wheel drive Wankel engine and in their hurry to get it on the market they changed the engine to a normal in-line 6.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:21 PM
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31. There was a Studebaker once, too.
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Lerrad Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 09:34 PM
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32. My first car was a 1976 AMC Hornet.
Lots of people harassed me about it, but like you it was the best car I ever owned. But of course the first one always is the greatest.

It had a straight six in it when I bought it. I remember this guy that had a Dodge Dart always wanting to race me, and I never did because I new he would win. At the time I was working for a manufacturing plant, that had access to engines, and the guys in the prototype shop drop a Chevy V8 400, 4 barrel in it for me one Saturday afternoon free of charge. I blow that guys doors of and he never wanted to race again.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:08 PM
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35. Stood for "Awful 'Merican Car."
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:08 PM by Rockholm
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