New Rule Expands DNA Collection to All People Arrested

[babylonsister]

New Rule Expands DNA Collection to All People Arrested
Civil Rights Groups Assail Change

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 12, 2008; Page A02


Immigration and civil liberties groups condemned a new U.S. government policy to collect DNA samples from all noncitizens detained by authorities and all people arrested for federal crimes.

The new Justice Department rule, published Wednesday and effective Jan. 9, dramatically expands a federal law enforcement database of genetic identifiers, which is now limited to storing information about convicted criminals and arrestees from 13 states.

Congress authorized the expansion in 2005, citing the power of DNA as a tool in crime solving and prevention.

The FBI created its National DNA Index System in 1994 to store profiles of people convicted of serious violent crimes, such as rape and murder, but the system has been expanded repeatedly, first to include all convicted felons, then misdemeanants and state arrestees. The data bank contained more than 6.2 million samples as of August, and officials estimate that 61,000 cases have been solved or assisted using DNA.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/11/AR2008121103337.html?wprss=rss_nation

[sandnsea]

1. And how many rape kits haven't been tested?

Is the backlog cleared up yet? Last I knew it was several hundred thousand. 70,000 in L.A. alone.

When we focus on the violent offenders, we'll all be a lot safer.

[robinlynne]

2. arrested, as opposed to convicted is scary. Anyone can be arrested.

At any time.

[mopinko]

4. really.

indicted, maybe. but arrested? no way.

[DCKit]

5. It happened to me.

Not all police are scum, but enough are.

[mopinko]

7. i live in chicago. still the land of gangsters thanks to our stupid drug laws.

arresting people just to harass them is one of the main tools in the "gang crimes unit" tool kit.

[wroberts189]

3. And will soon include civil infractions like peace protesting no doubt.

..and after that you will just get data based at birth like they are pushing for in Britain

People really need to to think about this to understand ..people could be easily framed or setup is one scenario. This is one more step in a bad direction.


Freedom has a price and the price is full liberty and privacy, they go together and cannot be separated. my quote.


Ben's quote:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin




* They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
* Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
o The first variant was written by Franklin, with quotation marks but almost certainly his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly. See Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin. <1>
o The second variant was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759) This book was published by Franklin; its author was Richard Jackson, but Franklin did claim responsibility for some small excerpts.<2>
o A variant by Franklin: "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power." (Poor Richard's Almanack, 1738)
o This saying has appeared in many paraphrases:
+ "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
"He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
"If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both."
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
"Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither."
"Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security."

[aikoaiko]

6. Is it comparable to being finger printed when arrested?

:shrug:

[tbyg52]

9. NO! The fingerprint just identifies me

and provides a link to anything that may be in the records. They can find out all sorts of things not even related to the arrest from DNA, and don't think it won't be abused.

[dickthegrouch]

8. At exactly the same time as UK has been told to destroy some

The UK government has been told, by the European Court of Human Rights, just this last week to destroy all DNA samples of people acquitted of charges or not charged.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/dec/05/dna-database-civilliberties

I don't think it is coincidence that * & Co are trying this.