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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:43 PM
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Same as it ever was
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:03 PM by eilen
"There hasn't been much labor trouble around here, has there, Mr. Stowbody?", she asked innocently.

"No, ma'am, thank God, we'e been free from that, except maybe wih hired girls and farm-hands. Trouble enough with these foreign farmers, if you don't watch these Swedes, they turn socialist or populist or some fool thing on you in a minute. Of course, if they have loans you can make 'em listen to reason. I just have 'em come into the bank for a talk, and tell 'em a few things. I don't mind their being democrats, so much, but I won't stand having socialists around. But thank God, we ain't got the labor trouble they have in these cities. Even Jack Elder here gets along pretty well, in the planing-mill, don't you, Jack?"

"Yep, Sure. Don't need so many skilled workmen in my place, and it's a lot of these cranky, wage-hogging, half-baked skilled mechanics that start trouble--reading a lot of this anarchist literature and union papers and all."

"Do you approve of union labor?" Carol inquired of Mr. Elder.

"Me? I should say not! It's like this: I don't mind dealing with my men if they think they've got any grievances--though Lord knows what's come over workmen, nowadays--don't appreciate a good job. But still, if they come to me honestly, as man to man, I'll talk things over with them. But I'm not going to have any outsider, any of those walking delegates, or whatever fancy names they call themselves now--bunch of rich grafters, living on the ignorant workmen! Not going to have any of those fellows butting in and telling me how to run my business.

Mr Elder was growing more excited, more belligerent and patriotic. "I stand for freedom and constituional rights. If any man don't like my shop, he can get up and git. Same way, if I don't like him, he gits. And that's all there is to it. I simply can't understand all these complications and hoop-te-doodles and government reports and wage-scales and God knows what all that these fellows are balling up the labor situation with, when it's perfectly simple. They like what I pay'em, or they get out. That's all there is to it!

"What do you think of profit-sharing?" Carol ventured.

Mr. Elder thundered his answer, while the others nodded solemnly and in tune, like a shop-window of flexible toys, comic mandarins and judges and ducks and clowns, sent quivering by a breeze from the open door.

"All this profit-sharing and welfare work and insurance and old-age pension is simply poppycock. Enfeebles a workman's independance--and wastes a lot of honest profit. The half-baked thinker that isn't dry behind his ears yet, and these suffragettes and God knows what all buttinskis there that are trying to tell a business man how to run his business, and some of these college professors are just about as bad, the whole kit and bilin' of 'em are nothing in God's world but socialism in disguise! And it's my bounden duty as a producer to resist any attack on the integrity of American industry to the last ditch. Yes--SIR!

Mr. Elder wiped his brow.

Dave Dyer added, "Sure! You bet! What they ought to do is simply hang every one of those agitators, and that would settle the whole thing right off. Don't you think so, doc?"

Main Street by Sinclair Lewis, 1920 Pages 65-66.

You'd think the groove would have worn out of that particular record, but here we are at 2008 and the same Republican mantra continues.



(edited for spelling, spacing and correct html coding)


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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:50 PM
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1. Boy Howdy...
The more things change...

Our amnesia-producing media see to it that we forget these lessons every other generation. Damn shame.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:50 PM
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2. Confirms the origins of today's repuke philosophy.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:02 PM
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3. So they think hanging all the agitators
would fix things up for them ...

In my darker moments, I've thought that hanging all the Republican politicians might fix things up for the country.

I've read two of Sinclair's books, The Jungle several times. It was devastating to me in my teens, worse in my twenties, and even worse in my sixties. I probably should read it again.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:05 PM
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5. Sorry, that was Upton Sinclair
Still think hanging's about right for Republican politicians.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:14 PM
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7. I like the whole
being lead handcuffed to prison in disgrace after lengthy televised hearings convicted of curruption scenario myself. ... Made for TV movie, tell-all interviews, gushing Rita Crosby and that Grace woman yakking nonstop, soon to be followed by 3 inch hardback best selling books of the scandal and transcripts and a confessional memoir ten years later, unless they gain access to a gun and blow their heads off first or gets assassinated by goons hired by their corporate overlords to prevent any last minute deals and keep the bodies buried.

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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:06 PM
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6. Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle
Sinclair Lewis wrote Main Street, Elmer Gantry, Babbitt, Arrowsmith and Dodsworth which each explored large themes such as Conformity, Religious Hucksterism, Knowledge vs. Commerce etc.) It's easy to get them confused as they both wrote significant social commentary cloaked in a story.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:21 PM
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9. "When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
That was written by Sinclair Lewis.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:18 PM
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8. I wrote a paper on "The Octopus" by Upton Sinclair. It was about the Railroad monopolies.
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:19 PM by BrklynLiberal
They were in charge before Big Oil came along.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:05 PM
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4. Look where my hand was
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:06 PM by BeatleBoot



Let the days go by...









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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:28 PM
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11. and the water running underground ...
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:24 PM
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10. The cogency of your post sent you to the Greatest page....
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 11:27 PM by catnhatnh
but I was recommendation #5...
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:40 AM
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13. thanks!
I saw the book Babbitt at the B&N but deferred purchasing it as I was do for an Extremely Expensive Auto Repair Event. The following day I went to the library and they did not have the book on their shelves but they had Main Street, so I borrowed that, and an autobiography of Ginger Rogers (recently watched a bunch of her movies on TCM, all set either during or right after the Great Depression).

On the day of my E.E.A.R.E., I dropped my car off and then hiked across the 5 lane highway to the mall across the street to catch the bus home. Unfortunately ,(no thanks to the bus driver) I got on the wrong bus and was transported to the end of the line, the state college campus in a town in the next county. Luckily, another bus came that was returning to my neck of the woods within 10 minutes.

My ride on the bus was eye opening. One middle aged man say a very cheery hello and smiled and I greeted him back and took a seat close by. A college student boarded after me and he gave her a greeting, she said hi very lightly with a "what a freak" look on her face and sat in the back. After my initial panic when the bus driver did not turn down the expected road and dawning realization where I was headed as she turned in the exact opposite direction (would not be able to catch the bus back from there and it was very cold and very far from my destination, the bus dry and warm)--I settled down and watched the Seneca River wind its way up North , squeeze into the canal locks and push back out to Lake Ontario; I listened to the banter between this Warm Friendly Man and the bus driver and the other riders that boarded the bus at different stops in the small backwater towns of Oswego County.

These people really have nothing, they either collect disability, live on welfare or work very low paying jobs. They have made mistakes in their personal lives and have no education to recommend them, some have no family or worse, predatory family. However, I have never overheard such generosity in spirit to each other. The first conversation was about Christmas plans. The bus driver was visiting her daughter, WFM said it was going to be very quiet for him, he was likely spending it alone but was embarrased to admit it, judging from the bashful tone to his voice. The tone was cordial and they continued, sharing parts of themselves.

One hard lived man, Carrying A Torch came on and announced his wife, who left him for some guy she met over the internet was hurting to make ends meet as the guy wasn't working or paying bills and the kids were hungry. He was giving her money but had none left. His daughter called him for some money for food and he told her he had to wait for a check and she called him worthless. He revealed she was 17 and smoking pot and she was mad at him for making her take drug tests. WFM said, "Oh, she's not herself, she doesn't mean it." CAT said he understood, he was hooked on pills himself in the past and neglected his family and he was very sorry and has been sober from any and all pharmaceuticals for 21 months, won't even take an aspirin for his (injured) back. He knows that good things will come to those who wait and forgive and he was sure his wife would get fed up with this boyfriend (who he knows is carrying on with four other women on the internets) and she will come back. Meanwhile his in-laws were housing and feeding him while he got on his feet. Next came a young woman. She greeted the men and soon the bus came to their spot. CAT got off the bus first, then they young woman helped WFM off. WFM had a bad leg and used a cane. His gratitude for her assistance was effusive. She said don't worry, it's second nature. They wished each other Merry Christmas.

Kind Woman and Bus Driver chatted. KW said she was concerned about the upcoming full moon as she works in a nursing home and her patients sundown. They sometimes get combative. She also talked of her children and food prices. They had some mutual friends from work as the bus driver worked another job with them. KW seemed concerned about hitting her overtime right so she would see it in her check before Christmas. She talked about her father who worked split shifts and took on extra jobs into his 70's. "He likes to be busy."

The ride back was similar except my bus driver Scott was a guy and there was a succession of people who would sit in the seat catty corner from the drivers and chat with him. When one got off the bus. another would drift up and sit and chat. One complained about his cousin, the slumlord, who was trying the cheat him out of insurance money from a car accident. Another one "Eddie" discussed another regular and how he was doing, he had been in the hospital and Eddie visited him recently.

What struck me about all these people is that being down on their luck was not a newsflash but a way of life. There was talk of troubles but not resentment (except perhaps the flimflam boyfriend and fleeing slumlord). No one was name dropping or "one-upping" each other. In my work, I've had many conversations with these people, perhaps not these specific ones but their neighbors or parents or cousins. These patients never sue. They are almost always suspected of drug seeking when they call back for a script renewal for pain meds.

Anyway, I did finally get home and a few hours later took another bus back to the auto repair garage, the correct one this time, the bus driver was kind enough to pull over to the right and let me off at the plaza so i wouldn't have to cross that busy road. At 4pm, that highway gets very busy and it was getting dark. I sat at the garage, reading Main Street, waiting for my car to be finished and a young woman comes in and says "I think my brakes are very bad, can you fix them?" They told her probably in the morning, they were closing in an hour and it would take longer as they had other jobs to finish. She worked at the hospital in the morning and told them it was impossible. She had worn her brake pads to metal and the calipers were rusted and stuck so they all had to be replaced. The mechanics not only fixed her car and replaced her brakes so she would be safe on the road, they also continued to work on my car well over a half hour after their closing.

Aas I read the paragraphs quoted in the original post I admit I was simultaneously laughing at the irony and pissed off royal. None of the people I encountered throughout the day was greedy. In fact, I think they often made decisions against their own financial best interests (refusals to sue in situations, giving generously of what little they had). The men at the garage were friendly and courteous to all who walked in, no matter what their complaint. Even the bus driver who inadvertently allowed me to get on the bus after I told her where I was going probably just had one of those moments and was very apologetic when she realized the error. Then to reflect on the news of executives still demanding millions of dollars of bonuses they didn't earn! Senators complaining of labor and workers!!!!! Blaming them for the failure of the auto industry when they didn't set trade policy, vote on deregulation, underwrite bank loans or engineer cars nor develop and implement projects; they just came into work every day and did their job according to contract.

I thought, "Talk about an echo chamber, they've been sitting in it for almost 90 years! Republicans, getting it wrong over the century.


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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 11:50 PM
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12. The Lords and Barons really get annoyed when the serfs start agitating for rights. (nt)
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:15 AM
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14. ...and you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:22 AM
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15. Thanks for the excellent excerpt by Sinclair Lewis..
The more they change....
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