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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:27 AM
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They're laughing at us
After a week of watching southern Republican senators blaming union labor for all the ills of this economy and demanding that these workers make wage concessions, one can only come to one conclusion. They are laughing at us. Look at my avatar and you will see what I mean by "us". Watching the weekend business shows, Cavuto on Fox :grr: and the laughing continues, union bashing and supply side cheerleading. In my opinion, these right wing media hacks and southern Republican senators are sorely under estimating the anger that is about to erupt in this area of the country.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:35 AM
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1. I had the bad luck this morning to turn on the radio and hear Larry Kudlow
Larry the Slimeball, who had cheer-leaded the $700billion bailout for the financial industry, was announcing that he was now suddenly "tired" and "fatigued" about the bailouts now that Detroit needs help. Said Kudlow: "We really need to stand up to the union workers and the UAW."

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:38 AM
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2. They may be laughing now, but give it a month
When the new Congress comes in, and then when Obama comes in. All the Big Three have to do is hold on for a few more weeks, I think that they can do that, especially if they get some of that TARP money, which is looking increasingly more likely.
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HopeFor2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:42 AM
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3. He who laughs last, laughs hardest
Let's hope we get the last laugh.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:53 AM
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4. "this area of the country"

You mean Wisconsin? the midwest?
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:55 AM
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5. The Midwest
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:29 PM
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11. I'm not even sure Wisconsin
is in the United States. But I'll get my passport out and drive across the river and check.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 06:31 PM
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22. ?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:01 PM
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18. The Great Lakes, or Upper Midwest.
n/t
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:04 PM
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20. The Great Lakes
Are the upper midwest.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:55 AM
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6. Where are the Democrats. If people did not know better, one
would think the Republicans still run the Country.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:00 PM
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7. Hey, what is that repub picture in your post all about?
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:34 PM
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12. Honest Abe
Was a great Yankee president, Repub or not.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:40 PM
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15. I Laugh When Republicans Try to Claim Him as Their Own
They are nothing like Abe... but more or less like the folks who hated him.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:01 PM
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8. How about standing up to CEOs who make $7200/hour?
That's the real crime. Why don't they talk about executive compensation? The guys who get megamillions for failing?

I did a little research on CEO salaries here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4642976

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:34 PM
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13. Thank you..... My god. When I hear that union wages are
destroying the country/ecomomy I say wait a minute.....What about those CEO salaries? 7,200 an hour-My God.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:54 PM
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17. UT's CEO "earns" 18 THOUSAND bucks an hour
and Wal-Mart's $15,000. Check out the thread I posted in the post above. It's obscene.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:07 PM
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9. I don't think any of these Senators should visit Michigan anytime soon.
No one is laughing here. Be warned Republicans....this state has had enough of your shit.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:38 PM
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14. Bunnings contract with the trade center where he was to sign baseballs sunday was canceled. nt
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:47 PM by Snotcicles
www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081212/AUTO01/812120434/1129/SPORTS0104
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:08 PM
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10. I really hate to burst your bubble but this country has been going anti union for a very
long time now. Since Reagan, the anti union forces have been telling the nit wits all the evils of workers unions. I seen it in union cities, here in Saginaw Michigan, there were union Kroger stores before Reagan took office. After Reagan was elected Kroger made a deal with Al Kessel to buy out the area's Kroger stores thus tying the unions hands because Kessel stores weren't unionized and because Krogers sold out nothing could be done for union workers, who either stayed at their jobs with reduced wages and no benefits or they lost their jobs.

It was a vast scam as the "new" Kessel stores sold Kroger brand foods, the non union Kroger stores in Ohio remained open. All efforts to unionize Kessels failed, the former union workers tried but Kessl said if they unionized he was closing the stores, the unions couldn't muster up enough support with the non union workers to pass a union also. This went on until 2000.

Then after the 2000 elections all of a sudden Kessel sold all of the Kessel stores back to Krogers and today they are all back under the Kroger name without unions. Now with all the union busting Krogers did in the open, Where do you think our UAW workers did their grocery shopping? You got it, Kessels, the UAW workers declared what Kroger and Kessel did was none of their business and they had to shop where food prices were lowest, they were the same as prices as the Ohio Kroger stores, but Kessel ran sales on food items to draw in the shoppers.

Today here in Saginaw the vast majorty of folks think union workers are over paid, lazy, free loaders getting top dollar without having to work for it. The myth that UAW workers get $73 an hour is widely believed and the myth is repeated by people "who" used to work at GM and have all the dirt on union workers who left GM because they felt they were taking advantage of the poor GM CEO's being forced to give workers benefits and huge pay checks.

This is basically a battle where the union myth's or lies are believed, and what it really boils down to is jealousy of union workers pay compared to non union workers pay. We here in DU seem to over look or ignore the jealousy factor at play, the pukes know it and feed it. I think that stems from our ability to see past our bank accounts or lack of and realize that the unions do far more good for all americans and not just those in the unions.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:46 PM
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16. You're right. They've untapped an anger that is just starting to boil.
The workers in Chicago will not be the last.
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:41 PM
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19. Its the South against the Union.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:19 PM
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21. There are actually some union towns in the South.
I live in a union town in Texas, thanks to the refineries and chemical companies here. The state overall has a very bad opinion of unions, but my little town is a very strong pro-union town.
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:30 PM
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23. Yes
It most certainly is.
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 07:35 PM
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24. Again how can anyone be against a Union ?
Maybe if we ever come out of this hell
we can all learn a thing or two. Bring back Unions for everyone. How can you be against a Union? They make sure you are payed a living wage, they are great on benefits, vaca pay, overtime ect... In this new financial environment we have a chance to stick together and change things. We really need to wake up. Look at the people at the Republican Window and Door Company, they got what they wanted. Chicago might turn out some of the worst but I think over the years they have also turned out some of the best.

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