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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:53 AM
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Another Great Example Of Why I'm Not Condemning Blago
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22feinstein%22+%22Senate+Appropriations+Committee%22+%22husband%22

Dianne Feinstein has enriched her household by millions awarded in military spending contracts.

I'm not even going to bother to search to see how many millions Bill Frist saved or made for his family (HCA) in his 12 years in the senate.

Blago had an opportunity to get on the same gravy train the power elite have been on for generations. He blew it by being stupidly crass, not by being corruptible.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:56 AM
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1. Yeah. And I shouldn't be condemned for hitting my wife.
After all, other guys have murdered theirs!

:eyes:
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Terry_M Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:18 PM
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4. That's exactly what's wrong with that argument.
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:20 PM by Terry_M
The fact that there are worse people out there doesn't make him any lass "bad". Instead of defending Blago, we should be trying to get Feinstein and Frist in jail if they're just as bad or worse.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:41 PM
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9. Or Cheating On Your Taxes?
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:51 PM by Crisco
Because your tax lawyer isn't as good at finding loopholes as the guy in the McCastle down the street?

Would you have me condemn you for that?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:44 PM
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13. Or cheating on my wife
She cheated AND got married before I had a chance to it unto her!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:58 AM
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2. He seems like a swell guy to me. There's just some mean folks
in Chicago.
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:07 PM
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3. I haven't really seen or heard a crime. Perhaps I missed it.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:35 PM
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5. why am i not surprised you'd defend that...
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:36 PM
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:38 PM
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7. I Didn't Say He Was Innocent
Rather, that I choose not to condemn him when his only real crime is not understanding the rules of the game as they are played at the highest levels.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:40 PM
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8. his only real crime was he wasn't sneaky enough to get away with being bribed?
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:41 PM by dionysus
hoookay :rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:41 PM
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10. Apparently being caught on tape soliciting bribes isn't enough evidence for some.
:eyes:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:42 PM
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11. I Find Your Sigline to Be The Epitome Of Irony
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:44 PM by Crisco
In this instance.

But for the record, his crime - if there is one - was in its lack of subtlety.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:43 PM
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12. so basically, you are saying crime is okay if you don't get caught
only on DU folks... :rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:44 PM
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14. Why? Greed and ignorance got Blagojevich arrested.
And apparently the ignorance trickles down to his defenders, who don't know what the word "bribe" means.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:46 PM
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16. But..but...Fitz said Blago "would make Lincoln roll over in his grave"
:eyes:

... it is hard to feel comfortable with Mr. Fitzgerald’s remarks in announcing the charges that Mr. Blagojevich’s conduct amounted to a “political corruption crime spree” and “would make Lincoln roll over in his grave,” that “the breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering,” that Mr. Blagojevich “put a ‘for sale’ sign on the naming of a United States senator” and that his conduct was “cynical” and “appalling” and has “taken us to a truly new low.”

Any prosecutor at the center of a firestorm of publicity may find the temptation to grandstand hard to resist, but these comments are, to put it mildly, remarkably inflammatory. Mr. Fitzgerald’s expressions of revulsion, use of hyperbolic rhetoric and implicit assertion of his personal belief that the charges have merit clearly run afoul of the rules. It is one thing for a prosecutor to publicly condemn a defendant’s actions and assert a belief that he did what he is charged with doing after a trial and conviction, but another to do so before he is indicted by a grand jury.

Of course, editorial writers, pundits, bloggers, voters and anyone standing by a water cooler talking to anyone else are free to characterize Mr. Blagojevich or his conduct as they see fit, limited only by the remote risk of being sued for defamation.

But Mr. Fitzgerald is a prosecutor, a highly regarded, powerful and well-known one. His public characterizations of the charges against the governor will stick in the public mind. They will remain in the public arena, on the Internet and in the memories of citizens who, one day, may be summoned for jury duty in Mr. Blagojevich’s case.

This is not to express an opinion, one way or another, about Mr. Blagojevich’s guilt or innocence. But he is entitled to a fair trial, and it is hard to escape the conclusion that such a trial has become less likely as a result of these public remarks by this otherwise very competent and effective prosecutor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/13/opinion/13coburn.html

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:51 PM
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18. Thanks For Posting That
I believe Fitz's grandstanding may be intended to pressure Blago into resigning out of fear the charges won't stick, just as was done to Spitzer.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:47 PM
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17. crash has nothing to do with it - simply stupid and corrupt - a bad combo
stupid, yes, because he knew he was being investigated

corrupt, yes, because he was trying to sell the seat, strong arm the press and misuse his office to line his pockets.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:10 PM
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19. 500,000 Wrongs Don't Make a Right
The fact that every politician* is corrupt to some degree does not excuse the corruption of any of them.

*except Dennis Kucinich. :loveya:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:15 PM
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21. He's a hangnail on the corrupt corpse of our government.
He did blow it by being crass.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:15 PM
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22. I want him GONE as my governor!! He withheld money from a health care
program for poor children, while he waited for a kickback. That alone should make progressives angry.

I can't believe anyone is defending this man. I hope he goes to prison. For a long time.
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