All of a sudden I'm getting a tinfoil feeling about yesterday's incident....

[Aviation Pro]

1. How did a known, hostile journalist get into the press conference?
2. How come he didn't throw the shoes when Two Shoes was turned away from him instead of when the later had a full scan of the audience? Also, the timing seemed too perfect.
3. By the way, how did the journalist get such a perfect spot to hurl his shoes? Also, how was he able to launch the second shoe so quickly after the first?
4. How did Two Shoes know the shoe size of the man so soon after the incident? There would be a thousand other things I would be concerned about - such as the breach of security - rather than the man's shoe size.

I smell Shitstain Shoots-Guy-In-Face and an attempt at legacy elevation.

[hamsterjill]

1. Beyond your questions...

How in the hell did Bush duck fast enough to miss the shoes!!!

[Aviation Pro]

2. Point #2....

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[DemoTex]

39. Iraqi Shoe Tossers' Code of Ethics #9A.

9A. Always have eye contact with your target. That makes the insult far more exquisite.

[janx]

6. He saw it coming.

There weren't very many people there. It was probably very obvious.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

3. I can only opine on two of those

2 - He probably wanted to make sure Bush saw that he was being insulted.

4. I assumed he was trying to make a lame joke to brush off the situation, not making an astute observation.

Can you please flesh out how having an irate journalist throwing shoes at Bush elevates his legacy? I don't see it.

[Aviation Pro]

8. Don't underestimate the stupidity of the failed Beauty Queen voters....

...who are impressed by a duck.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

12. But that's the thing

It doesn't really do anything for people who didn't already support him (either openly or covertly), and the rest of the world seems to be ranging between "Good for that journalist for standing up to Bush" to "Hey, someone threw shoes at the President!" If it is a plot, it doesn't seem to be a well thought out one.

[endarkenment]

14. Oh so he has solidified his position with the 20 percenters?

OK.

[el_bryanto]

4. I wonder how that conversation went

Karl Rove "OK here's my plan. We have someone throw shoes at you."

Pres. Bush "What?"

Karl Rove "Someone throws shoes at you. And with your quick reflexes, you get out the way. It will show you are presidential."

Pres. Bush "I'm not following you. You really think someone should throw shoes at you?"

Karl Rove "Yeah. We'll probably need to practice. Go stand over there and let me throw shoes at you."

Pres. Bush "No way, Karl. This is just silly."

Karl Rove "Trust me. I know what I'm doing."

Pres. Bush. "Well your the boss I guess."

Scrt Service Agent #1 "Guess Rove is still pissed about that Turd Blossom thing."

Scrt Service Agent #2 "Looks like it."

Bryant

[Mira]

22. Welcome to DU ! I look forward to more of your wit el_bryanto

[hfojvt]

38. you are joking, right?

The sig line is completely familiar but I cannot remember if the old UN was PM Bryant or some other variation.

[Alter Ego]

29. Karl: "All right, Dubya! Here it comes! Right down the pike!"

Dubya: "Karl, I really don't know about thi--*WHACK**THUD*"

[harun]

5. I don't think so

B*sh was there to sell Iraq as being in good shape now, where they are happy the U.S. did what they did. Pissed off shoe chuckers hardly sells that message.

[rocktivity]

16. What message?

If Iraq really were in good shape, he wouldn't have had to travel there in secret, and he wouldn't have had to travel there in secret to announce that the troops were staying and nothing was going to change.

:headbang:
rocknation

[harun]

24. Reality is of course that. He can count on all the corporate

media outlets to fill in positive spin.

[babylonsister]

7. How would this elevate a legacy in any way?

His 'message' got lost totally.

[Aviation Pro]

10. Look upstream at post #8....

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[babylonsister]

23. I dunno, from everything I've read, idiot son went over there to sign

the SOFA agreement and this little incident totally sucked the oxygen out of his 'shining moment'. It was a slap in the face/shoe towards the head, indicating Iraqis can't stand him as much as we can't.

[tinymontgomery]

9. I wonder if the White House

press pool will now have to take off their shoes when ever the emperor comes to speak?

[hlthe2b]

11. He's getting no legacy elevation from this... In fact,

it has overshadowed the entire reason for BUsh* trip and press conference, made Bush* look the clueless fool he is and showed the world how hated the Bush boy and his minions truly are despite their propaganda.

[endarkenment]

13. Don't look a gift shoe in the tongue.

It was what it was. Bush is despised everywhere.

[hlthe2b]

15. Do you really think ANY of those Iraqi journalists are not

at least somewhat hostile? Good grief. They have all witnessed what has happened to their country. Some maybe more ready than others to "play ball," but I doubt, on some level, any of them don't harbor some hostility towards Bush*.

[merh]

17. The thrower did not need to hit GWB to make his statement.

The throwing of the shoes was the statement, the insult.

[Sorceress]

18. Yeah, I am still struggling to see how this set up would benefit Bush.

I mean, sure, I gave a nod to his reflexes but mostly, I just laughed my @ss off. I just don't see how this would have been a good idea for his admin.

[Rebubula]

21. The only...

...good idea for his admin would have been for them to all disappear shortly after the 2000 elections.

The only reason that I actually responded was your 'Firefly' tagline...I miss that show.

Peace..

[Sorceress]

40. Point taken! Aww, isn't it awful living without a season 2 of Firefly? Life can be so cruel.

[Freddie Stubbs]

19. 4. He didn't. It was a joke

[mondo joe]

20. There's no benefit to Bush at all. It just humiliates him - and the timing just

enhances it.

[Schema Thing]

25. Sorry, no.

[IDemo]

26. I only hope Jack Shoeby doesn't get to the shoeter before the real truth is known

[shadowknows69]

28. I'd say you were bad for saying that

But I made a JFK ref right below you. I am ashamed.

[shadowknows69]

27. Bush clearly ducks down and to the left

Down and to the left....down and to the left. If the shoe doesn't fit they must aquit. There was definitely a shoeter in the grassy sand dune.

[endarkenment]

33. Shoe 1 was undamaged after striking the screen behind the podium

bouncing off the screen, and hitting maliki in the leg. The "magic shoe" theory is preposterous. Clearly there was a second shoeter.

[dixiegrrrrl]

30. Maybe the giuy's shoes were made by this company:

[IDemo]

31. I'm certain I've found the weapon manufacturer here->

http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=VW58%2010&productid=VW58+10&channelid=PGRAB

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

32. Can't Say It's The Most Stupid Tin Foil Hattery I've Seen On Here; But It's Close.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. Even though Bush has proven himself capable of really stupid acts, even he isn't that stupid.

As evidence, the shoe hurler is now considered a hero by much of the world.

[earth mom]

35. It was clear to me that * was surprised & totally pissed off. Look at how small his beady eyes got.

I'm sure the shoe throwing journalist is getting the * & Cheney torture special served to him right about now. :yoiks:

[onenote]

36. so your tin foil is that this journalist -- a known critic -- was actually in cahoots with chimpy

Check the pull date on your tinfoil; it appears to have gone bad.

[Nye Bevan]

37. So, shoe toss MIHOP or shoe toss LIHOP.

Perhaps the 9/11 forum could be extended to accommodate threads on this theory, which certainly has equivalent plausibility to most of the stuff already being discussed there.