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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:20 PM
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Nutjob on with Hartmann
Repubs are insane

Guest - "Anti-gay marriage is not like anti-interracial marriage, because some blacks are anti-gay marriage"

:wtf:

Guest - "Gayness is a choice"
Thom - "So you decided at some point to become heterosexual?"
Guest - "No"
Thom - "Then why do you think gays chose to be gay?"
Guest - "it's in the scripture"

Conservatism is a mental disease
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:22 PM
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1. Thom is the man
I think its even worse when he brings on so-called financial experts from Ayn Rand and proceeds to shred their pitiful excuses.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:27 PM
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4. Hartmann was very effective on
Countdown last Friday. I'm sorry Keith wasn't there; would have loved that conversation.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:25 PM
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2. I'm Not Hearing Him on Internet
I've tried 3 Hartmann stations - no avail.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:32 PM
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6. Heres a few
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:36 PM
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7. Still Nothing
will you try to listen on a net site and post again. I get my local station on the net, but Norman Goldman is filling in for Schultz and I'm not a fan of Goldman.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:49 PM
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10. try this, oto
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:56 PM
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11. Never mind. The novam stream has crashed into a loop
Every 30 sec I get a 10-sec Randi Rhodes plug for some book on Amazon. The 6th circle of hell
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:06 PM
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17. Me too, thank you. I thought I was going wacko. The WINZ stream works for me though.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:59 PM
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12. Nope
something is definately wrong w/ Air America feed.
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ComtesseDeSpair Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:25 PM
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3. Well, I would actually say...
Religious faith is a mental disease, not just conservatism.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:32 PM
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5. with that, I do agree.
I've been searching for my hard copies, but can't find them. There were studies in the 60s and in the early 80s, that measured the incidence of mental illness and compared it to the strength of self-reported belief in that god thingie. Simply put, the more nuttier the person, the more likely they were to proclaim a super strong faith in some almighty critter.
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amdezurik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:49 PM
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9. this guy did the normal thing these idiots do
he began by spouting old testiment crap about Sodom and Gomora then when Thom began slowing going through and debunking it, he suddenly said eh was NOW talking new testiment and tried to twist away that way.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:37 PM
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8. My version of Thom's response: "It's in WHAT scripture, you fucking idiot?"
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:02 PM
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13. That's got to be the funniest exchange I've heard all day.
Hiding behind Scripture to shield one's ignorance. Priceless.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:03 PM
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14. I'm listening to the stream on the NOVA-M primary stream
And I'm getting a loop on unconstitutional wire taps. I tried the primary and secondary feeds. It's driving me crazy, finally turned it off.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:05 PM
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15. Same here. The first 45 min or so were fine (novam)
Then it went dead and now I get the ad loop. Better luck tomorrow!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:36 PM
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22. Try this one;
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:58 PM
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24. I found one that works.
Thanks! :hi:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:05 PM
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16. I'm not sure if it's a mental disease or
a deficiency. There is an inability to think for themselves and not rely on other sources such as Scripture to verify they think correctly.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:14 PM
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18. Another nutjob on .... Thom's coffee drinking, speed talking libertarian
"Obama is discriminating against women in his stimulus package."

I wish he'd find a new one to talk to, her speed meth voice always grates me

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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:28 PM
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19. "it's in the scripture". LOL... It's hard to deal with that kind of logic.
What a nut ball.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:38 PM
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23. It's not even in there
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:31 PM
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20. "Conservatives" are unfortunately Born that way.. it isn't a Choice, they lack 'Fluidity in their
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 01:44 PM by sam sarrha
thinking, QUITE POSSABLY because of Organic physical deficiencies in essential cognitive structures of the brain.

my personal view of this subject..if we cant legislate out the Phenomenological IRON LAW OF OLIGARCHY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy , then we must consider that.. they need to be put in walled Reservations and prevented from breeding, its the only way to humanely deal with them. we are all Doomed if they are left to continue to FUCK everything up and profit from it,they are obsessive compulsive sociopaths and some psychopathic and all out of control." :shrug:
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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/376166/brain_d...
"snip....Data analysis shows that liberals are about 5 times as likely as conservatives to show brain activity in the areas of the brain related to detecting conflicts between habitual tendency and a more appropriate response. Liberals are also more than twice as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy.Simply put, liberals tend to think much more than conservatives before acting, whereas conservatives tend to be much more habitual and conforming to established traditions...snip"

search info. Democrat brain differences
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.m...

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-politics10se...
"Frank J. Sulloway, a researcher at UC Berkeley's Institute of Personality and Social Research who was not connected to the study, said the results "provided an elegant demonstration that individual differences on a conservative-liberal dimension are strongly related to brain activity."

Analyzing the data, Sulloway said liberals were 4.9 times as likely as conservatives to show activity in the brain circuits that deal with conflicts, and 2.2 times as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy.

notice the difference in substance of the articles

search info for liberal brain differences
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid...


search info for conservative brain differences
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+concervative++
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:34 PM
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21. As Jon Stewart pointed out to Huckabee, religion is a CHOICE if anything is a choice.
Your parents choose your religion for you. Once you're an adult, you're free to change sects, religions, whatever. Yet, the Xian a-holes say that gay rights aren't enshrined in the Constitution because being gay is "a choice."

No one is born a Xian or a Muslim or a Baptist. It's ALL choice!

God, they're a-holes!
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