How can it be 30 degrees out w/ice and be lightening and thundering!? nt

[Indiana_Dem]

[ProfessorGAC]

1. Well, Up There Where The Lightning and Thunder Is. . .

. . .it's 30 degrees most of the time! So, i don't think temperature and lightning are connected the way you propose.
GAC

[Indiana_Dem]

2. But there's nothing on the radars I'm looking at!

It just seems weird out. I'm in North Central Indiana.

[ProfessorGAC]

5. Maybe Some Isolated Cells

Sometimes cells dont' show up because they're little. But, they can still have enough energy to create thunder and lightning. (Thanks to Chi Coltrane!)

And the temp down here on the ground and what it is up there might not be that correlated.

I know that i have flown to or back from England in EVERY month of the year. The airline i fly has the personal video thing for every seat. When you're not watching something, there is a flight tracker, and one page of it is the speed, altitude, wind, and outside temperature.

That outside temperature is pretty much the same whether it's January or July! So, i'm thinking what we feel on the ground and what the temperature is 15,000 or 30,000 feet up, is barely the same thing.

BTW: I heard thunder here too. I'm probably under a 100 miles from you! So, the weirdness seems to be hovering over this whole area.
GAC

[Indiana_Dem]

7. Oh my! I would be going crazy with the tracker in an airplane.

There are two things I have phobias over and that includes flying in planes and tornadoes! I don't like wind at all. I don't like turbulence. Sets me into a panic attack!

[ProfessorGAC]

11. Then You'd Hate That 8 Hour Plane Ride!

And, summer before last a tornado passed directly over our town. Took a 12 inch bough off my silver maple and dropped it across the power lines. Went without electrical service for 5 days. Fortunately, it missed the house, so no really damage.

So, you'd have hated it on the plane with me, and you'd have hated being at my house!

Sheesh, you'd think you had something against me! LOL!
GAC

[Indiana_Dem]

19. By all means no way would I have something against you!

I think I must've died one of these ways in another life or something.

I've seen funnel clouds but thankfully I've never been through a tornado. As far as flying goes, I've flown a few times across the U.S. from Atlanta to California and back. The turbulence made me NEVER to want to fly again...that was 24 years ago. I haven't flown since. I even have an uncle who wants me to come visit him in St. Croix (where he lives) but I can't make myself take the plane trip.

[boobooday]

13. Hey I was born in Muncie

Indiana can produce some freaky weather, that's for sure!

[dipsydoodle]

3. f or c ?

Assuming f then don't assume that water freezes at 32 degrees. Can be a lot lower if humidity is low - c. 20 degrees in some deserts I think. Can also depend on your height above sea level.

[Indiana_Dem]

6. f. The forecast says the humidity is 74%. Interesting. Thanks.

I just rarely see "thundersnow". I'm afraid to death of tornadoes. I was just hoping I didn't have to worry about tornadoes in the winter when it's this cold.

[alphafemale]

9. A snownado?

:scared:

[Indiana_Dem]

10. lol! Yeah, I know I sound silly but I'm just that way! I can't help it! nt

:)

[dipsydoodle]

15. My sister is in Perth W. Australia

I spoke to her yesterday and asked what the temperature was - answer was "only 29c today but forecast for New Year is 39c "

[unhappycamper]

4. We've had Thundersnow in Boston a few times.

It happens.

[Norrin Radd]

8. The density of cold air prevents the soundwaves of thunder

from traveling as far as it does in warm, so you don't hear it as often -- lightning and thunder do indeed happen during the winter, though. We witnessed a little here in Seattle recently, before our snowfall.

[madrchsod]

12. i have been through several ice storm with bolt lightning and thunder

it`s a very interesting phenomenon....

[Pharlo]

14. I'm in WI,

and, personally, I observe this phenomenon mostly in the spring (Feb - April) or fall (Oct - Nov) when the weather around here is typically turbulent. (I'm defining 'turbulent' in this instant as 30 and snowing one day and 65 and sunny on the next.) Not so much during the consistent winter months like Dec. But, it does happen. I find it fascinating as hell myself.

[Edweird]

16. That's the 'storm' part of a snowstorm.

[santamargarita]

17. The upper air is warmer...

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[MiniMe]

18. Thunder snow